Reddit mentions: The best pc gaming mice

I would find a good mouse you like, so you aren't using a touch pad. I highly recommend the new logitech mice that have their new sensor. I personally have never used a mouse with a better sensor. Any of these three mice are good. I recommend the logitech g pro if you don't know what preference in style you have for your mouse. It's pretty close to what you would be use to in standard mice.

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Shifting-Personalized-Programmable-Customizable/dp/B00IRHE892/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1482645105&sr=8-3&keywords=logitech+mice

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-910-004380/dp/B00TKFD51M/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1482645105&sr=8-11&keywords=logitech+mice

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Gaming-Advanced-Sensor-Competitive/dp/B01JPOLLTK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482645118&sr=8-1&keywords=logitech+mice+pro

Make sure you download steam for all your gaming needs. There are alternatives, but since you are newer to PC I highly recommend using steam as your main platform. Also they are having an awesome winter sale right now! Perfect time to pick up games at super cheap.

http://store.steampowered.com/

I highly recommend turning off "enhanced pointer precision" which is normally turned on by default on windows machines.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/enhance-pointer-precision-windows

I would also ensure that your computer is using the "balanced" power save option.

http://www.howtogeek.com/240840/should-you-use-the-balanced-power-saver-or-high-performance-power-plan-on-windows/

I recommend getting good, preferably free, anti-virus. Everyone has their own preferences. I use Avast. Just avoid McAfee.

https://www.avast.com/en-us/index

Picking up a new browser, so you don't use internet explorer, is a good idea. I recommend google chrome because it has enough built in features where you don't need to be "in the know" to get what you need out of it.

https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html?brand=CHBD&gclid=CjwKEAiA1vjCBRDd-9q3w4OF6WUSJACWv_sVbfPzq9MQuEXf_fjyvJqASfE7B5R_9B7d6mLscUpprxoCj8Xw_wcB&dclid=CN360ufXjtECFZFFAQodU78Etw

If you do pick up google chrome, you should pick up an add blocker for it as well. Blocks advertisements everywhere and stops you from having to watch advertisements at the beginning of youtube videos.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/adblock/gighmmpiobklfepjocnamgkkbiglidom?hl=en-US

And to wrap it up I'd download the battle.net launcher from blizzard. Blizzard has lots of very good games, like overwatch, hearthstone, wow, etc.

http://us.battle.net/en/app/

I personally use a program called f.lux which makes your monitor more friendly for your eyes at night. It makes it easier to fall asleep after being on your PC late at night. I highly recommend using this if you game at night.

https://justgetflux.com/

Now just find some games you want to play. Here are some of the most popular games on PC(based on players playing the game at the moment). That I would recommend. Everyone has their own preferences, and sorry if I'm explaining this like you know nothing. I'm not sure what information you are looking for exactly or your knowledge level.

Battle Net Games

Overwatch(Multiplayer PVP focus - fantastic FPS highly recommend)

Hearthstone(free to play card game - if you like trading card games play this!)

Steam Games

Skyrim(Single Player)

Witcher(Single Player)

Total War: WARHAMMER(Strategy Game)

Civilization 6(Strategy Game)

Terraria(2d Minecraft)

Paladins(PVP Free to play game)

Path Of Exile(Free to play Diablo2 like game)

Rust(Multiplayer Survival game)

Ark(Multiplayer dinosaur survival game)

Stardew Valley(Top down run your own farm RPG game, think Harvest Moon)

Dark Souls 1,2,3(Hardcore mostly singleplayer action RPG)

War Thunder(Free to play WW2 plane/tank PVP game, multiplayer)

Binding of Isaac: Rebirth(roguelike, top down like old zelda games - highly recommend this game)

Cities: Skylines(better version of Sim city)

Rainbow Six Siege( tactical FPS pvp, multiplayer)

Stand Alone Games That Don't Use A Launcher

Minecraft

League Of Legends

League Of Legends is one of the most played games in the world, competing against overwatch. It is called a MOBA, you've probably heard of it, and it's at least worth checking out if you have a friend to play with.

edit: Also finding a headset is very important, I always point to HyperX headsets if you need a microphone to talk to people. They are comfortable, sound good, and won't break the bank. If you don't need a mic just pick up a nice pair of sennheiser headphones. Also sorry for any grammar issues and just the wall of text. I just started typing and kept going. If you have any questions feel free to ask, hope you like your pc!

20. Modem: Buy it separately from your router. If you have 1Gbps (e.g. google fiber), then you need a DOCSIS 3.1 modem. Otherwise, you're find with DOCSIS 3.0 modems, which instantly cuts your costs in half. What matters is your number of down/up channels, which dictate your download/upload speeds. You'll need to look-up your ISPs supported modems, as many of them (e.g. Comcast) will mess with you, in that even though your modem may support insanely fast speeds, they won't let you use appropriately rated service packages with it and will auto-downgrade your speeds (or simply refuse offering you the service). This means getting "more than you need" is, in fact, "exactly what you need". Blame the ISPs. So, figure out your current/future download/upload speeds desired, then look-up your ISPs list of supported modems, then purchase the cheapest modem with the highest number of channels supporting it. You'll likely want to look at the DOCSIS 3.0 line-up from Motorola. The DOCSIS 3.0 24x8 will be plenty for anyone not on Google Fiber, frankly. Actually, it's almost google fiber speed rated, so even if you did use it, chances are you wouldn't even realize your mistake (a DOCSIS 3.1 32x8/16 is where fiber users should technically be at). Most would be fine with 16x4, but as the price difference is about $15, I'd consider the 24x8 a worthwhile future proofing, but my budget may differ from yours. And don't get roped into how DOCSIS 3.1 "beats out" DOCSIS 3.0 modems. The difference, if there even is any, is imperceptible. Also, if you use a cable company like Comcast, you'll also save on modem rental fees (as much as $20/mo) getting your own, so it will pay for itself. Also, make sure to check the error codes put out by your modem, after it has had a day to sit around and receive firmware updates (pushed by your ISP, unlike your router, which needs to be manually updated by you. #SecurityPSA). If they're high, or your numbers are experiencing unusual skew, then your coaxial cable (the wire connecting from your wall to modem) may have an issue, or there's an issue in your building's wiring (or neighborhood), building switch panel, or the wall-mount itself might be noisy. You can purchase a new coaxial cable and twist-on knob (I forget what this device is called) to lower noise going to/from your modem - the other problems require contacting your ISP.
    
    
21. Mouse: DPI adjust-ability can be nice for pro gaming, but what you should really consider is ergonomics, frankly. Ergonomics aside (this is why I personally use a trackball mouse, which seems to amaze a lot of gamers - mine uses index finger to move, so my left mouse button is operated by my thumb), you should consider the refresh rate. Much like your monitor has Hz, so, too, does your mouse. Settings of 500, 1k, and 2k are common to find. most pro gamers use 500, else 1k. The higher you go, the lower the input lag, thus you can react faster. You might be wondering then, "why don't most pros use 2k?" Two reasons. First, the 2k Hz are often buggy, overclocked, problematic messes, whereas most the 1k Hz are stable (manufacturer dependent). Second, when going beyond 500 Hz, like to 1k Hz, you will experience visual stroboscopic effects. Depending on your eyes (and your monitor), this might not bother you. That's why some pro gamers do end up using 1k Hz mice. To see for yourself what I mean, check out the relevant [testufo stroboscopic page](https://www.testufo.com/mousearrow#count=4&pps=1920). Personally, I do competitive FPS with a Logitech Marble Mouse, but after nearly 15 years, a new index-finger operated trackball with a scroll wheel, programmable buttons, and DPI adjuster has finally hit the market! So, I'll be trying out the Elecom mice. If you can't imagine playing with a non-thumb trackball mouse, I encourage you to give it a shot. Otherwise, checkout [mice pro FPS gamers use](https://on-winning.com/overwatch-pro-sensitivity-settings-setups-monitor-mouse-keyboard-headset/) (e.g. [Logitech G Pro Gaming](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JPOLLTK/), [BenQ Zowie EC2-B](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0771WQH6X/), or [Razer DathAdder Elite](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LXC1QL0/)). Non-trackball mice aren't my area of expertise though, so there may be better choices out there to consider!
    
    
22. Microphone: [Audio-Technica's 2020 USB+](https://www.audio-technica.com/cms/wired_mics/5879a6ca22e5aa7e/index.html) cardiod is great, although it will pick-up a lot of ambient noise in a room that isn't acoustically cared for. It's relatively lightweight and fits well in most shock mounts and boom arms. It also sells with specially fitted wind shields (akin to a pop filter), which are much sleeker (less in your face), remove more p-losives (compared to most nylon and metal pop filters), and is far superior in removing ambient high frequency noises (e.g. ceiling fans and keyboard/mouse clicking) (on account of it being form-fitted. They're also the cheapest around \~$10. However, a similar priced microphone that sounds more neutral and picks-up less ambient, would be the Blue Yeti (and if you're thinking of getting the "Pro", then save your money and just get the AT 2020). It's a pretty good microphone in its own right, although getting a shock mount and wind shield to fit it is problematic (and expensive). It's also extremely heavy, so most (even >$100) boom arms can't properly support it. Lastly, there's the Blue Snowball. Its quality is pretty good and there are streamers out there using it, although many seek out the two aforementioned microphones. Nonetheless, it's still quite good, extremely lightweight, and runs the cheapest of all three. It's also very-very small compared to the others, so if you're skipping a boom arm, then it will be the best fit on your desk! Anyway, with respect to the Audio-Technica, a good shock mount (e.g. [Rode PSM1](https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PSM1--rode-psm1-microphone-shock-mount?))) and good boom arm (e.g. [Rode PSA1](https://www.amazon.com/RODE-Swivel-Mount-Studio-Microphone/dp/B001D7UYBO)) are good ideas, but expensive. And again, a good wind screen (e.g. [VocalBeat's acoustic fitted foam](https://www.amazon.com/AT2020-Foam-Windscreen-Vocalbeat-Microphone/dp/B01LZIDS2A/)).
    
    
23. Keyboard: Mechanical keyboards are my preference, given tactile feel/responsiveness. For silence, you'll want to consider Cherry Red Silent, red, and brown (in that order). For gaming (lighter pressure & shorter travel distance), you'll want to consider Cherry Speed Silver, Cherry Red Silent, red, and Cherry Black Silent (in that order). For those sharing both these priorities, it really just comes down to the Cherry Red Silent and Cherry Speed Silver. The former is 30% quieter than the standard red/brown, which makes it VERY quiet (it also is better for gaming). The Cherry Speed Silver is the best for gaming, EXCEPT it's so loud, that people have reported people over Discord complaining about hearing it. In my opinion, if it's distracting your teammates, then that's actual going to hurt your gameplay. As such, the Cherry Red Silent wins (being the next best "gaming" and most silent MX board). For more details, see [here](https://www.cherrymx.de/en/mx-original/mx-silent-red.html). As for the manufacturer, I've not yet finished researching the matter, although Ducky receives very high user reviews. As for Corsair (who first created the Cherry Red Silent MX's, in tandem with Cherry), their RGB backlit keyboards are a definite no-go. Why? Numerous user reviews state the software must be run on the PC for lighting effects to work. This wouldn't be so bad, except that numerous reviews have indicated it consumes \~500 MB of both system RAM and GPU memory! And while you can close out the program, this will disable all RGB lighting/effects!

Looks alright. I wouldn't reccomend Ryzen chips. I would probably get something more like an i7 6700k or the 6700 (which is around $20 cheaper if you can't justify the price) for gaming. If you end up choosing an Intel CPU you'll have to choose a different Mobo as well but there are lots of good ones.

I'd reccomend getting an entry level 144Hz Screen. If you can stretch to something like this I would seriously reccomend it, though it's not going to hurt you if you don't. I think it was Jake from LG Evil that made T500 early in the game on a Mac Book running OW in wine.

I personally don't like any gaming Headsets other than the HyperX Clouds. There is a huge quality difference between them and any other "gaming" headsets I have used.

As far as mice and keyboards, I would probably just buy a nice cheap Keyboard to begin with because there are no benefits really to having a good keyboard if you're on a budget. A mouse is kinda personal, I use a Steel Series Rival 100 but am a palm style user and am completely arm aim. It's a good cheap mouse but you may want something else if your grip style is different. My brother plays claw and doesn't mind it though.

Parts and gear you should prioritise for Overwatch are: Good GPU. 6GB 1060s are plenty for overwatch unless you want to be running the game at consistently over 240FPS (here's Taimou's settings btw. These will help with you configuring your settings for Overwatch). A fast CPU (Overwatch can be very CPU dependant). SSDs are kinda nice and fairly cheap. If you have a SSD btw you're at a direct benefit to most other players because you load in matches faster and can therefore instalock first, if that's your thing. :P Monitors are the most important peripheral by far in my opinion, followed closely by mice. If you're not getting a 144Hz screen now, you'll want one eventually (you won't need one but you'll want one). The only other peripheral that is important for Overwatch specifically is a mouse. This is one of those what suits your style things and there's no real correct answer but for First Person Shooters you usually want a nice light fast mouse. Ideally with 2 buttons on the side of the mouse for binding melee and voice. Just don't get a Razer and you'll be fine.

I'd probably ask on /r/buildapc as well because they'll probably give you better advice than this sub will. Best of luck dude with your transition to PC. Hope this helps.

Edit: oh and Mousepad! In the beginning I'd reccomend a nice control style mouse pad for getting used to using a mouse for aiming. I can't reccomend you any though because I have always used the mats that come in WoW TCG boxes since a family member has heaps of them and I've never used any other control style mats. The bigger the better.

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The DAYUM Build (AKA The You Spend Irresponsibly Build) ~ $5500

Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-4930K 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor | $554.98 @ NCIX US
CPU Cooler | Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler | $89.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard | Asus Rampage IV Black Edition EATX LGA2011 Motherboard | $391.98 @ Newegg
Memory | Corsair Vengeance 64GB (8 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $594.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $229.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Western Digital Red Pro 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $139.74 @ SuperBiiz
Storage | Western Digital Red Pro 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $139.74 @ SuperBiiz
Storage | Western Digital Red Pro 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $139.74 @ SuperBiiz
Storage | Western Digital Red Pro 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $139.74 @ SuperBiiz
Storage | Western Digital Red Pro 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $139.74 @ SuperBiiz
Video Card | EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked Video Card (4-Way SLI) | $549.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked Video Card (4-Way SLI) | $549.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked Video Card (4-Way SLI) | $549.99 @ Amazon
Video Card | EVGA GeForce GTX 980 4GB Superclocked Video Card (4-Way SLI) | $549.99 @ Amazon
Case | Fractal Design Define XL R2 (Black Pearl) ATX Full Tower Case | $124.99 @ NCIX US
Power Supply | Corsair AX1500i 1500W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $405.98 @ Newegg
Optical Drive | Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer | $16.98 @ OutletPC
Optical Drive | Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer | $16.98 @ OutletPC
Wireless Network Adapter | Rosewill RNX-N150UBE 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter | $11.98 @ OutletPC
Case Fan | Corsair CO-9050017-WLED 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan | $13.98 @ OutletPC
Case Fan | Corsair CO-9050017-WLED 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan | $13.98 @ OutletPC
Case Fan | Corsair CO-9050017-WLED 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan | $13.98 @ OutletPC
Case Fan | Corsair CO-9050017-WLED 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan | $13.98 @ OutletPC
Case Fan | Corsair CO-9050017-WLED 66.4 CFM 140mm Fan | $13.98 @ OutletPC
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $5407.40
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-28 05:09 EST-0500 |

This shit is gonna blow any Mac Pro away. In fact, it'll blow everything away. You better have a backup generator. And you better know what you're getting into smh. Btw, I have no idea whether this is Hackintosh-compatible. Asus motherboards can be tricky but if you're going to invest this much money you might as well invest the time to set it all up. Or hire someone. Whatever. Oh, and still cheaper than a "comparable" (lol, it doesn't compare) Mac Pro by like, $4000. Buy yourself a render farm. Or more than one computer. Or the Apple Store.

RENDER NODE ~ $500

Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor | $104.99 @ SuperBiiz
Thermal Compound | Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste | $6.49 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-H87N Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard | $96.98 @ OutletPC
Memory | G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory | $61.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $82.99 @ NCIX US
Case | Fractal Design Node 304 Mini ITX Tower Case | $78.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply | Corsair RM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply | $88.99 @ Directron
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $521.42
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-28 05:18 EST-0500 |

Time for the render node! You only really need a processor and stuff that fits with it. I went barebones with this, and stuffed it all into the smallest case I could while leaving breathing room for cooling. You can stack these on top of each other. Better yet, buy an IKEA drawer set and put them in drawers. Remember to carve out the back to allow for air to escape and to manage cables. Voila! Your own render farm, nicely tucked next to your desk.

Disclaimer: I got the render-farm-in-drawers idea from this guy. I saw it on a blog like year or two ago, I had no idea he started a website. Check it out!

RECOMMENDED PERIPHERALS

For video editing, gaming, and general use, I recommend the following monitor because it isn't glossy (fuck glare!), is LED-backlit, has IPS technology for amazing viewing angles and color reproduction, is HDMI-compatible, 1080p, has a fast response time (5 ms), and is relatively affordable (about $160 USD street.)

If you want headphones, check these out. They're great middle-range headphones that are good for music, gaming, and other general use.

If you're doing audio work, I recommend using monitors for accurate sound-reproduction and to avoid coloring your mixes. A ton of people I know swear by these. Remember to treat your room! There are great tips and guides for all genres of music over at r/edmproduction. Don't let the name fool you; they have some great stuff for everyone.

In terms of mice, any will do; I personally recommend this one, though.

In terms of keyboards, use whatever you're comfortable with. I know a lot of people swear by mechanical keyboards, especially keyboards that have CherryMX keys. I personally hate them because I'm far more accurate with chiclet keyboards. However, I plan to change my key caps to some that are shallower/need to be pressed harder to register (I currently have Cherry MX Reds, want to switch to Browns). The great thing about mechanical keyboards is that they are customizable! If you are used to Apple Keyboards, this keyboard should provide a good balance between the feel of chiclet keys and that of a mechanical keyboard.

If you're balking at these prices, you're not alone. Unfortunately, quality products mean shelling out hard-earned moolah. If you can afford it and think it will be valuable to you, I think these products should work well for their intended purposes and have good quality. I have personally used all of these products. Of course, don't take my word for it; look around r/buildapc, r/headphones, and r/edmproduction for more recommendations.

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I love my Razor Deathadder, but Razer quality control has a lot of issues, now more than ever. Any of their newer products, typically branded as "Chroma" are horrendous. They're cheaply built and seriously prone to failure. Get the DeathAdder Black or DeathAdder 2013. Those are much higher quality kit, though harder to find and as such, pricier.

As for Non-Razer kit, Logitech, Steelseries, and Zowie have the best rep for mice. Here's a few recommendations based on what I've heard here and read from reviews from Tom's Hardware, PCGamer, and Amazon. If you can, go up to Best Buy and or Fry's and get your hands on the mouse you're looking at. Everyone has a different preferance in Ergonomics. I cannot stand Logitech mice for their feel, but many love them and they're quality kit, as an example.

• Logitech G502
  
  ^("Logitech took the already-excellent G500s and remedied its few flaws, leaving a product that's both more streamlined and more robust. If you have very specific needs — such as tournament-level FPS play or endgame MMO content — the Proteus Core may prove passable. For anyone else, it's hard to imagine a better generalist gaming mouse. Mouse manufacturers, take note: The Proteus Core is the standard to beat.") -Tom's Guide
  
  
  
• Steelseries Rival
  
  ^("Overall, there's very little objectively wrong with the Rival, but there's not much to set it apart from the pack, either. The Logitech Proteus Core has a better design; the Razer DeathAdder has better software; the Corsair Vengeance M65 has more genre-specific features. Still, if you've got big hands and want something comfortable, the Rival is a solid choice.") -Tom's Guide
  
  
• Zowie FK2
  
  ^(" In many cases, the mice above are cheaper despite having more buttons, higher sensitivity or better customisation options. Of course, not everybody needs such features, and there is certainly beauty in the FK2's ambidextrous design and simplicity. Nevertheless, it's hard to see where the price justification comes from in the context of the rest of the market, so for this reason it just misses out on an award. That also being said, the overall quality is high, so if it meets your needs and size requirements, you'll be rewarded with a great little mouse provided the cost is not an issue.") - Bit-Tech.net
  
  
• Razer Deathadder 2013
  
  ^("Sometimes a product is popular because it feeds on its own momentum, and sometimes a product is popular because it's legitimately excellent. The Razer DeathAdder is definitely in the second category. Despite a few design quibbles and game-linking oddities, the mouse is an easy recommendation for PC gamers of every stripe.")- Tom's Guide

So when it comes to buying a mouse it is really all about your play style and feel. If you like to palm the mouse meaning that your whole hand is round the mouse a good mouse is the Razer Deathadder If you like the claw grip using mostly only your finger tips than I would recommend the Logitech G Pro I personally now use this mouse but used the Deathadder for a number of years. Both mice have over a 12,000 dpi setting once you install the software you can adjust as you please, but tbh most likely you will play between 200-900 dpi and 1.2-3.2 sensitivity in game. All of this is preference and you will figure out over a long period of time playing key board again is all preference it depends if you like silent of mechanical Razer Cynosa is a very nice silent one in your price range, for mechanical I have owned a lot of them and tbh the one I use is a off brand one I bought from my local Walmart and and I like it more than any high dollar ones I have owned so you might want to look there. Also you will need a nice mouse pad I have and will probably continue to use for years the razer goliaths speed it is cloth and I like it, there are also hard pads many people I know use and enjoy the Corsait MM8800 but again this is all up to preference. Last thing if you are trying to play at any high lvl of competition you might want to look into a 144hz monitor if your computer can run what ever game you are playing over about 200fps I have Acer 24inch 144hz the price is really good and makes a huge difference. well that is about all I can think about I wish you the best of luck and above all just have fun.

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There are many great mice on the market in your price range, but there's a lot of information (and marketing) to sift through. I hope this post helps.

The most important part of a mouse is its sensor, which is responsible for maintaining 1:1 tracking at all speeds. As of today (2015-01-17) the best sensors are the 3366, 3310, and S3989; this limits your choices significantly but ensures that you will be getting the best mouse possible. Below are some mice and information (and my own, biased thoughts) about them. Ultimately, you will have to decide on a mouse based on your own set of priorities and needs / wants.

First, the Razer DeathAdder Chroma. This is a 5-button right-handed ergonomic mouse with a good sensor, acceptable weight, and RGB lighting. However, the top edges are oddly shaped, there are rubber side grips, you have to use the Razer Synapse software, the clicks are extremely light (causing some people to accidentally misclick), it has a braided cable (frays), and Razer is known for its extremely poor quality control. A good mouse, certainly, but there are major flaws which prevent me from recommending this mouse.

Logitech mice are known for their excellent build quality and high-quality sensors, but they are oddly-shaped. The Logitech mice to consider are the G303 and G502 (there's an updated G502 with RGB lighting, too). Both of these mice use the 3366 sensor, which is slightly better than the 3310. Based on shape alone, however, I can't recommend these mice. The G303 is very small, and the G502 is heavy and awkwardly-shaped and such that I would accidentally click the two front side buttons. They also come with a braided cable (frays) and require software for configuration.

Next is the SteelSeries Rival 300. RGB lighting, 5 buttons, light weight, etc., but has a rubber side grip and uses software. The new revision supposedly fixed the wear issues with the rubber side, so there's nothing really wrong with this mouse, but I think there are better options.

The FinalMouse 2016 is simply a 3310 sensor in a cheap OEM shell - I'd look elsewhere. They're coming out with the "Tournament Pro" and "Scream One" editions, but I wouldn't have high hopes for these.

The Ducky Secret is an interesting one, but largely untested and unreviewed. Ducky is known for their high-quality mechanical keyboards (I'm typing this on a Ducky Shine 3), but this is their first mouse. Good sensor, RGB lighting, separate left and right buttons, a shell made of PBT (higher-quality plastic), Omron switches in all buttons, even the thumb buttons (but not rated for as many clicks as other mice). Could be great, but it's a bit of a gamble, especially considering how many well-known and well-tested other mice already exist.

Finally, I'll cover the Zowie mice. All of these mice are driverless (no software needed; all adjustments are made with a button on the bottom of the mouse), which is certainly a plus when it comes to ease of use, but they lack the flashy features of many "flagship" mice, like custom RGB lighting. All Zowie Mice use the same sensor (3310) and have 5 buttons (left, right, middle up/down/click, and two thumb buttons). Each type comes in two or three different sizes, as indicated my the number after the model name. The ambidextrous mice (ZA for palm grip and FK for claw grip) have two buttons on each side, but only one set can be used at a time. The EC mice are right-handed ergonomic mice. None of them have rubber side grips or braided cables, and all of them are very light. However, they are known for using Huano switches rather than Omrons (so the left and right buttons are a little harder to click) but there is a new revision with Omron switches. Speaking of revisions, this seems to be the Zowie business model: small revisions every 6 months or so. Questionable, but they do offer excellent mice.

Those are all of the major players in the gaming mouse market, but there are others (Mionix, Roccat, CoolerMaster, Corsair) that you may want to look into. There's a lot more depth than I've covered here (grip type, sensor implementations, lift-off distance, etc.) but this should give you an overview of the most popular choices. Keep in mind that this is not in any way an objective set of reviews; these are all my opinions and may not apply to your tastes. Additionally, I've been pretty harsh and picky, but these really are all great mice.

After all of my research, I chose and now use a Zowie EC1-A (late 2015 version, before the BenQ re-brand and Omron update), and couldn't be happier.

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It's all a bit trial and error really.

 

The most basic's I'd say to start off with would be to rebind Q E R F (use WASD to move and pan the camera around with your mouse, though some will say to rebind S as well but if you're new to keybinds I'd personally say keep S as a move backwards key, AKA PVP'ers shame button :P ).

 

Q and E I've personally found are best for the button's you are going to press the most - like filler spells without cooldowns/with procs ie. Frostbolt and Ice Shards (iirc, haven't played a Mage in a while).

 

Spells like DOT's and/or cooldowns are good for 1-5 because they are a little further away but still easily reachable, and you won't need to press them constantly- if you're anything like me your hands linger around the WASD area by default.

 

R and F are good keys for situational/utility spells (like an interrupt for example - something that isn't part of a regular rotation, but is still easily accesable when you need it).

 

As something that is trivial but helpful is to bind your mount button to something like CTRL+Space. It's small but is one of those stupid things that when you get used to it it just makes sense.

 

Then as you become more comfortable you can add more keybindings (like Z X C V) and using modifiers like SHIFT and CTRL (like SHIFT+Q, SHIFT+E), but to get you going I'd say this is a good starting point. The best thing I'd say would be to practice on a training dummy and change around the keybindings as you prefer until your rotation feels comfortable and you build muscle memory.

 

If you are new to the game and need a hand getting the rotation down, or even leveling a new class the addon TellMeWhen and u/Chesderman keep profiles updated to import at www.chesder.com that tell you the rotation (it's not 100% all you'll ever need, but it does help a great deal).

 

As other people have mentioned, a multi-button mouse can make the process easier, but it's still a learning process all the same. I personally haven't used one with more than 2 extra buttons, but someone did suggest [this mouse](https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00FNKMVUO/?coliid=I3MWGUDSM8CTYH&colid=3KY4B44CD98Y1&psc=1&ref=lv_ov_lig_dp_it) on /r/pcmasterrace as a good entry point without breaking the bank.

 

Is there anything obvious I've missed fellow keybinders? I haven't really typed up a begginer guide to keybinding before.

Yes, thank you. Op this build is a great starter build. I am going to break it down, and post some alternatives or upgrade options.

CPU: the ryzen 2600 is the best price performance cpu on the market right now. It is powering a ton of midrange and even low high end gaming pcs. GET THIS.

MOBO. a b450 is a good entry level mobo and will work with 2000 series cpus without a bios update.

Ram. Team Vulcan works great with Ryzen. a lot of budget ram does not. If you can spare the extra cash, it is much cheaper in the long run to go with 16GB of the same RAM for $125 if you can spare the extra 45.

An HDD. This is fine. Personally, I would find a way to spend the extra money and go with an 500 GB SSD like this, or this. I would then buy an HDD later. If those SSDs take this build over 700 which appears to be your price limit, then feel free to go HDD.

When it comes to PSUs I don't like this one from above, nor do I like Thermaltake smart. The one thing you should never cheap out on is the PSU, because if a bad PSU fails it can take down your whole system. The above model is described as a safety hazard by review sites, and the Thermaltake 500w smart is not recommended for the same reason. I would get this one. For 10 bucks more you get a classic excellent PSU. While this PSU doesn't have modern PSU features, this is a very solid PSU from a name brand. However, if you want a legit modern PSU then this one would be great, if you can spare the 23 extra bucks.

Finally, the Keyboard and mouse are fine. I got platinum god in the original binding of isaac on a cheapo keyboard combo like this. However, If you want some legit budget products check out the company red dragon. The red dragon kumara k552 is a well reviewed entry level mechanical keyboard, and the red dragon m801 mammoth mouse is excellent. Note that despite the name, the red dragon mammoth is actually great for small handed/medium handed people, as a short 5'6" dude with small hands I love my mammoth, it's the best mouse I ever used.

Here is a build with my suggestions for cost comparison purposes, it will be over your budget of 700 but it is a legit core gaming pc. Here is something to consider:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor | $165.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI - B450M PRO-M2 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $64.99 @ B&H
Memory | Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $124.89 @ OutletPC
Storage | Seagate - Barracuda Compute 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $73.73 @ Amazon
Video Card | PowerColor - Radeon RX 580 8GB Video Card | $219.99 @ Amazon
Case | DIYPC - P48-W ATX Mid Tower Case | $29.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $51.65 @ Newegg
Monitor | Asus - VP228H 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor | $99.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard | Redragon - K552 Wired Gaming Keyboard | $29.99 @ Amazon
Mouse | Redragon - Mammoth Wired Laser Mouse | $26.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $888.19
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-30 03:31 EDT-0400 |

The biggest change is that I added an RX 580 which is a 1080 60 FPS beast which should allow 60 FPS at 1080 on high or ultra for the next 2 years at least in modern Triple AAA games.

I also added a 1 MS gaming monitor. This monitor is totally unnecessary for small time indies like don't starve, however, once you get a gaming pc, you might want to play some esports titles like fortnite and a 1 ms monitor will be nice for that.

Change the processor for an i3-4130. Faster and only a few bucks more at $120, not to mention you have an upgrade path to a Core i5/i7 if you want later. Or, if you can, budget get an i5-4590 and you get a quad-core.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EUUKVXM/?tag=pcpapi-20

With that obviously comes a change of motherboard, and the best one for the price is the MSI B85-G41. It costs $70.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130699&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Changing that TN panel monitor for an IPS model only costs $5 more and gets you a screen that looks a lot more elegant, has much thinner bezels and because it's IPS has much better viewing angles, better contrast ratio, and better color reproduction. The monitor is something you use every single time you use the computer, so don't skimp on it.

http://slickdeals.net/f/7215282-hp-22xi-21-5-1080p-1920x1080-ips-monitor-110-with-free-shipping-at-shopping-hp-com

Corsair AF series fans are very good, there's no denying that, but honestly there's quite a good amount of fans that are better for the money. But if you MUST have purple LEDs, they're okay. For something functional, Rosewill Hyperborea 140mm will push a lot more air (90CFM vs 57CFM) and they're also 4-pin PWM and don't use cheap sleeve bearings so while not silent they are relatively quiet (I have them). There's also the 120mm version that pushes the same amount of air. $13 for 140mm, $10 for 120mm. Honestly if you're on a budget I'd say to spend more on stuff that's gonna make your games run better and your PC run cooler, but if you'd rather spend it on making it look flashy that's fine too.

http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-ROCF-11004-Hyperborea-120mm-Case/dp/B006DKEQV0/ref=pd_sim_pc_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=07XK7TFAF1V50CH4FE4S

As for the case, there's really no other one that has that combination when it comes to color, but there are better options for the money. If you want a mix of both it looking flashy and having good features there's the Rosewill Patriot for $60. It comes with four blue LED 120mm fans to the two on the Bitfenix, meaning you could also buy two fans instead of four. It also comes with a side panel window if you wanna look at your components.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147169&cm_re=rosewill_patriot-_-11-147-169-_-Product

The graphics card you should definitely change as there's much better options for the money. For example there's the Radeon R9 270 which will give you performance within 10% of the GTX 760 for only $160 and will stomp on the 750 Ti, meaning on most demanding games you can run at High settings instead of Medium.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202090&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

The keyboard you should change. You can get the Monoprice Cherry MX Blue for $51 on sale, saving you $40.

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=114&cp_id=11401&cs_id=1140102&p_id=9433&AID=11064683&PID=4485850&ref=cj&utm_source=cj&utm_medium=11064683&utm_term=Slickdeals+LLC-1122587

As for the mouse, I know it's a great mouse, but there are also cheaper options that will give you the same options. Not from Logitech themselves, though, obviously. This one has 4.5/5 reviews on Amazon, has weights, on-the-fly DPI buttons, and 12 macro buttons. Only costs $37 too.

http://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Perdition-Precision-Programmable-Cartridge-profiles/dp/B00GU8W5AE/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1411949015&sr=1-1&keywords=gaming+mouse

As for RAM, you can pick up Patriot 2x4GB DDR3-1600 for $73 at Newegg and that will do the trick nicely.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220836&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Any questions let me know.

The top brands are Logitech, Razer, and Steelseries.

Here are some recomendations:

Razer Deathadder (for FPS) - THe DeathAdder is the staple for a lot of FPS gamers. Simple, smooth, responsive, and comfortable. Personally I love the feel of this mouse in my hand and it is quality built.

Logitech G700s (FPS/MMO)- The G700s is one of the best rechargible gaming mice with long lasting battery so you don't have to worry about it dying mid game. Also with over 13 programmable buttons on the mouse it's great for MMO and MOBA games! Personally I've only used this mouse a limited amount so I can't say just how long the battery lasts but it is REALLY comfortable in the hand and has great response.

Logitech Proteus - (FPS/MMO) - Great customizable mouse with variable weights and adjustable palm rest. 11 customizable buttons. Perssonally I haven't used this mouse but heard good things about it.

Steelseries Sensi (FPS) - I can't praise this thing enough. Smooth, comfy, basic and beautiful! Personally I have this mouse personally and love it. it's not fancy but boy does it just work!

Well, since KBM = Godmode...

Why not just enable KBM support by default on console?

For about the same price as a new controller you could hunt around and find a playable KBM set up.

Even in the article you cite, the game's director only says that it should be either/or, he does not rule out KBM. He only says that if a console is going to have KBM input, it should be plug and play and equally accessible.

BTW:

> There's no major difference between a $20 mouse and a $200 mouse except some more buttons, a few LEDS and the branding.

You are drawing the absolutely wrong comparison. Some products are all about branding and style and are definitely WAY overpriced (ahem), but there is a distinct difference between playing on this, and this(anti-ghosting is more important at really high competitive levels and players can be picky about an AG layout, but it's less important than the fact that mechanical keys offer much better options for tactile feedback and are almost universally more precise). And a MASSIVE difference between this and this. That gaming mouse has SIX TIMES (including scroll wheel button) the amount of buttons as the normal mouse. This is literally the difference between going from the face buttons of an original NES controller to the number of buttons and triggers on modern controllers. Sure, you could try and cluster as many functions as close to your left hand as possible, but having them all right at your thumb is a massive difference, to say nothing of the on-the-fly DPI adjustments that many gaming mice have (EG - most commonly used to instantly switch between high and low sensitivity settings for better sniping).

I personally have a blue-switch KB that is immensely satisfying to type on and is great for gaming (particularly when doing something, like a dash, that requires a double-tap of a key). I hope to never have to go back to a membrane KB.

As far as my mouse goes, I paid something like $50 for a mouse that has 8 programmable buttons and a DPI switch for up to 4 different DPI settings (though I only use two). It was a huge advantage over my old mouse for the shooter I was playing at the time (Planetside 2, an MMOFPS).

So I'll circle back to what I originally said and will restate that I think the decision at the hardware level to exclude KBM was an ill-thought "walled garden" approach to protecting controller sales. Again, if your cited article is to be believed, Microsoft may end up opening up KBM support. It only makes sense because media entertainment devices, such as consoles, are converging with the set-top HTPC/video box market.

Hell, again, per your article, Sony even already offers a keypad/mouse combo.

If you want a simple set of starter peripherals, I'd go for Logitech G402 for a mouse, SteelSeries 6Gv2 for a keyboard and HyperX Cloud II for a headset.

The best option for a mouse would be for you to make a list of features that you require (how many buttons? Ambidextrous/ergonomic design? Wired/Wireless? Lighting preference?) and come back here for a list of mice that satisfy all or most of your requirements. Then you would go to a shop to test how each of those mice feel in your hand and choose the one that is the most comfortable. Buying a mouse on a recommendation is likely to end with you getting a mouse that is not comfortable.

For a keyboard, as a beginner, a standard layout mechanical keyboard would probably be the best bet. However, mechanical keyboards come in various switches, so it would be best for you to spend a few bucks to buy a keyswitch tester online and find which you like best. From there, you could come here or /r/MechanicalKeyboards for suggestions.

For your headset, HyperX Cloud II is an excellent choice and will be pretty much impossible to beat for the price. And any better headset will cost you twice what the HyperX Cloud II does, making it an even better option. In fact, I got the HyperX Cloud II as a Christmas present for my little sister. Meanwhile, if you had other uses for headphones, buying a more expensive pair of headphones with something like the Antlion ModMic would be a good choice.

Edit:
>The g502 looks like a transformer

How about Zowie EC1-A then? I have owned an older version of that mouse for close to 3 years and it still works flawlessly. It is also an extremely simple mouse, with no drivers or firmware of any kind to trip you up.

This. http://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Perdition-Precision-Programmable-Cartridge-profiles/dp/B00GU8W5AE/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1408802042&sr=1-1&keywords=red+dragon+perdition

It's not a major mouse brand, which might instantly turn off a lot of people. However, it's highly programmable, has all of the bells and whistles of an $80 mouse, feels incredibly durable and is not made from flimsy stuff, and the software is utterly amazingly easy to key bind anything you'd like to any button on the mouse, including customizing the DPI. [The DPI buttons can even be re-assigned, with no restrictions.] It's very simple and lightweight, too; it's very good at what it does without any bloat.

The light color change sounds like a gimmick but since you can assign a different color and glow pattern to each profile (which takes about 2 seconds to swap), it helps you easily ID what is loaded onto the mouse.

The drivers are flawless and the button layout is very good; after day 2 with the mouse, I never hit the side buttons on accident thanks to their design.

Long story short, I've had high end expensive mice for many, many years and this is easily the best mouse I've owned in a while. Very sturdy, reliable, and considerably more customizable than the more well known multi-button mice. With 5 customizable DPI levels, it's perfect for MechWarrior, as well.

And all this for the price of a cheap "new computer" freebie-quality mouse. I really recommend this thing. If you're willing to consider a smaller hardware manufacturer, you'll way more than get your money's worth.. doubly so since you get all this for under forty bucks.

ED: The side buttons work very well for MW:O, from strikes to UAVs to coolant, it's nice to have it all on the same location.

ED2: Because of the above I've taken to not customizing games I play all the time, but customizing the mouse to the game. That was doubly nice in Star Citizen since it lacks key binds right now.

Leveling is pretty easy and straightfoward.. Specs all work leveling just about besides healing..

There are 2 categories of players.
Causuals
Hardcore (competent)

Casuals players have ruined most of what "wow" was but you can still get a great amount from the game.

Here are some things you should do if you choose to get in said "Wow"

• 1. Learn your class. This generally comes through leveling on learning the basics. But take time go to Elitiesjerks.com and look up your rotation practice it ( for raiders) there is no excuse for not knowing it when this information is at your finger tips ( and you dont want to pay for a game you refuse to learn).. to many people do that already.
     *
     
• 2. Pvp is a different story, you not only need to know your class. You also need to know your burst windows and cc ( crowd control which means loss of control of character) rotations. These take along time i mean a long time to get it set to reaction and not having to think about what to do while something is happening to you. If you get to the point where you just simply REACT to everything that is happening to you in a arena match.. you are off to a very good start.
     
     
• 3. Collectibles,pet battles,achievement hunting is mostly done by casuals not saying you can't be hardcore and do it but if that is what you 95% of the time you play don't expect to be taken seriously or to get in any group that is decent at raiding or Pvp.
     
     
• 4. Professions are almost worthless because of garrison that has been added to Wow. I personally don't have any leveled and still make plenty of gold so if you don't want to you don't have to waste your time.
     
     
• 5. DO NOT CLICK. DO NOT KEYBOARD TURN. it will do nothing but hurt you and form very bad habits. The second you log on Wow switch A and D to Strafe for you key bindings. you want to about 90% of the time hold down your right mouse button to turn right and left.
     
     
• 6. Keybindings. I personally use http://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Perdition-Precision-Programmable-programmable/dp/B00LSERFA0 So my binds are easier but i use these buttons for every class i play i currently have 7 100s.
     
     
• 1-12
  
• Shift+ 1-12
  
• Alt+2
  
• Q,R,E,Z,X,C,V
  
• Shift+ Q,R,E,Z,X,C,V
  
• Mousewheel up
  
• Mousewheel Down
  
  That can all seem very daunting i am sure if you have not played MMO's before. But if you just do 1 at a time while leveling
  say you just bind "Q" to your first main move you use that over and over pretty soon its memorized and you go to the next button.
  
  Last.. DONT STAND IN THE FIRE.... JUST DON'T
  
  
  My experience? 10 years of playing 2400+ rating in arena ( which is pretty good not godly but not easy)
  
  I do hope you choose to play wow i have loved and hated it for the past 10 years but i am still playing. But please
  take the time to learn the game you pay for that is all i ask.
  
  
  -Madane

I will let one of the other nice folks of Reddit answer your monitor question. I'm a noob in that regard. My personal setup is a 144hz monitor but looks like you need a 60hz. I'm not sure what the best 60hz monitors are.

I will give you a few extra pointers and suggestions from my latest build a few months ago.

Mice are generally purely preference. I've never heard of the brand in your build so I'm a bit concerned of the quality. I personally enjoy the Steelseries Rival.
SteelSeries Rival 300, Optical Gaming Mouse - Black
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0160USMW6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_OT0CzbXGGKJY2

That ram you have in your build seems expensive. I was able to get a set of trident RGB ram for $111 on a Newegg sale. Keep an eye on r/buildapcsales and sign up for Newegg sale emails. Depending on when you buy, you should be able to find a better price than $120 for 16gb.

I'm not sure if Jet is still offering the Triple15 deal or something similar for new customers. But basically the first 3 purchases I made were 15% off capping at $30 max. So I got my 3 most expensive items from them and it was cheaper than anywhere else. Look into that and keep it in mind if you weren't aware of it already.

I'm not sure if your MoBo will support it, but I spent $23 on a cablemod RGB light strip that makes the S340 Elite look awesome. Totally doing nothing for your performance, just added aesthetics.

One thing to keep in mind for the S340 Elite. Mine only came with two exhaust fans (rear back exhaust and top rear exhaust). I bought two additional fans for front intake to improve the airflow in my case. I bought a pair of fan splitters to connect both sets of two fans to one fan connection on the MoBo each because I only had two fan connectors on the MoBo.

Edit:
I checked your MoBo specs:
"4 x 4-pin system fan connectors 1 x 4-pin RGB LED strip connector"

You won't need fan splitters if you want to hookup 4 case fans. You can also add an RGB light strip
CableMod WideBeam Magnetic LED Strip RGB - 60cm / 30 LEDs
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N7RSXUA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_Ac1Czb0D7K2A8

Again, light strip totally unnecessary. Just looks awesome. You could always add it in down the road.

Some recommendations.
Ambidextrous mouses
Dream Machines DM1 FPS - Have heard good things about these mouses. Haven't used one personally but would not be against one if I was looking to try something different than what I already have.
Zowie FK series - Difference between the FK1, FK1+ and FK2 are just size.
Logitech G Pro - Personally I prefer the original over the new version with the Hero sensor because I like the PMW3366 better than the Hero16K but most people state they can't notice the difference. Also, original is pretty cheap right now.

Ergonomic mouses
Zowie EC series - Users report having issues with the scroll wheels on the B models (EC1-B,EC2-B) but that seems to be hit or miss. I have an EC2-B that I love and have no issues with. The B models have a newer sensor than the A models. B models have the PMW3360 sensor.
Logitech G403 - Great sensor (PMW3366) and fairly light at just over 87 grams.

You will probably notice these are some of the most popular mouses on this subreddit, haha. Take my recommendations with a grain of salt and do your own research as well. Hope this helped in any way!

I don't know if they're the best, but I had a Roccat Iksu keyboard which was practically silent unless you properly bashed it, comes with five programmable macros on the left and three on the palm rest under the space bar.

I'm currently using the Roccat Kone mouse which I love as it has a comfortable design, a slick matte finish which doesn't get all clammy when your hands get warm, a scroll wheel which can also scroll sideways as well as a DPI adjuster which you can use on the fly (goes up to 8200 DPI) two additional side buttons for forward and backwards on browsers and a Windows button at the top.


If you go for these and like your pretty lights, you can go for the XTD variants.


For just a general good keyboard, I've just got a Razer Blackwidow Chroma which I can play Snake on. So that's nice. It's just loud as it's mechanical but I believe there is a silent version as well.

After going through various mice for FPS games, I cannot recommend anything else but the Logitech g303 Daedalus Apex. This mouse is by far the best I have ever used spanning various DPI modes, a sleek and sturdy design for true competitive accuracy, one of the best sensors on the market and last but not least, RGB lighting. I highly recommend it because not only is it insanely responsive but also lightweight.
You can find it here: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-910-004380/dp/B00TKFD51M/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1517952647&sr=8-3&keywords=logitech+g303+daedalus+apex

Wish you the best of luck in your mice hunting!

Hey man, I dunno if you'd rather just continue to encourage him to keep using his left or not, I dunno how the palsy works or if it's something you can train out of a person, but I would be remiss if I did not recommend a gaming mouse with a thumb keypad.

My personal favorite is the Reddragon Perdition, been using this guy for two years now and it's still going while similar options, like the razor Naga Epic and the Corsair Scimitar died on me after a year.

I've often thought that if I were to lose all functionality in my left hand for some reason, I could totally keep playing league with one hand using one of these.

But again, I dunno if giving him more functions for his right hand would be more helpful to him or if just slowly forcing himself to use his left would be better. I ain't no science-y smart guy doctor man, but I gotta feel like someone so young can still normalize the condition to the point where they gain effective functioning.

What price range are we talking?

If you have some money to spare, I would recommend Razer gear. It's some of the best out there.

The Razer DeathAdder costs 50$ and is probably the world's most popular gaming mouse.


The Razer BlackWidow costs 70$ and has mechanical keys. I love this because you have a noticable "click" when pressing in the keys which makes more very dynamic and precise gameplay.

In addition to this, you need a mousepad. It doesn't have to be a good/expensive brand, but make sure it's LARGE. It recently bought a huge mousepad and it is sooo nice being able to play without being scared to roll over the edge. Lower DPS improves your aim, so you may have to move around your mouse a lot from time to time. This is a gamechanger.

If you don't have 120$+ to spare on equipment, just go on Amazon and search for "gaming mouse / gaming keyboard". Most results will be very affordable and still cheap.

For example, I am currently using this gaming mouse for only 14$. It's perfectly fine in my opinion and quite nice.

Ahoy! I "converted" to KB and mouse with FFXIV - it was my first game played on kb/m rather than controller. Prior to 2013 I'd been a mostly-console player, had played hundreds of games on controllers, and had never seriously attempted to play anything on kb/m.

The other reply said the most important part: just practice. There is a lot of individual variation from person to person when it comes to how you'd learn to play this way, and (crucially) what areas you'd have trouble with, and how you solve them. To give a personal example of that: while things like moving with WASD and the mouse took some time to adjust to, I was pretty much okay with those fundamentals after a couple months. What was KILLING me was hitting keyboard keys with my left hand to use hotbar skills. Generally, if I moved my hand slightly to hit whatever skill is bound to, say, shift 4, I'd have to look down in order to reposition my hand back on WASD to move properly. If I moved my hand to hit a key, then immediately after that there was an AOE I had to dodge, by the time I got my hand back where it needed to be, I already got hit. This also meant that everything past 5 in the number row was off-limits to skills I would need to use with any regularity, and if I DID need to hit a skill bound to 8 or 9, I needed to stop and look to make sure I was actually hitting the right key and not 7 or 0 (the same way I'd need to then stop and look AGAIN to get back to WASD).

Some people like to change Q, E, R, or other letters near WASD to hotbar assignments, but I just found that discombobulating and also preferred keeping Q/E as my strafe keys (which I use a LOT). This specific problem, of trying to use my left hand for WASD movement but also for hitting numbers to activate skills, kept me from being any better than "barely okay" at the game for a few years, even though I'd felt I'd adjusted adequately to kb/m controls OTHER than that one problem.

So I needed a solution that would allow me to move my fingers away from WASD as little as possible, and that solution was an MMO mouse with 12 thumb buttons. Specifically, this one. I use all 12, so my first hotbar is 1-12, 2nd hotbar is ctrl+1-12 (with ctrl mapped to that little extra button next to the left mouse button), and the 3rd hotbar is shift + 1-12 (shift I can hit with my left pinky without moving the rest of my fingers out of WASD position).

Now a 12-button MMO mouse may or may not work for you - it depends on the person. For me, after an awkward month spent adjusting to it, it began to feel totally natural. I can't go back to playing this game any other way now. But my point in writing all that isn't to say "get an MMO mouse", it's to illustrate that the key is figuring out what works for you, and perhaps more importantly, what doesn't, i.e. what your Achilles heel is when it comes to kb/m controls, and how you can solve it.

Re: standard vs. legacy - I dislike how legacy handles camera and character movement so I keep it on standard. I've long since gotten used to keeping my camera angled in such a way that if I need to dodge laterally, I can just right-click to instantly turn my character and then hit Q or E to strafe. This is also how I get around the "slow walk" issue, which seems to be one of the main points of contention when legacy vs. standard is discussed: hitting S in standard will make you slowly walk backwards (useless for dodging out of an AOE), whereas with legacy you'll actually turn and run away. With the camera angled properly, right-click and strafe allows you to run "backwards" instantly (that is, backwards relative to the enemy, even though your character is actually strafing left or right). But this, again, is an entirely subjective choice that's down to which one works better for you. It's worth fully exploring the particulars of both methods to figure out which one you like better.

There is no correct sensitivity when it comes to playing a certain hero or playstyle. It's all personal preference and how much practice you have put into the hero and game. I have known players who are very good at aiming with both extremely high and low sensitivities. Of course, if you are setting your sensitivity for the first time like you just picked up a mouse, I would say set it to where a full span across your mousepad will do a 360. (With no acceleration. Make sure you turn that off. If your mouse has that on automatically, get a new one.) From there, you have to test yourself to see if you are over/undershooting, or you think it just feels incorrect. In the case where you have a small mousepad and bad mouse. Investing in a good mouse would probably be worth the money. You can find the best mouse for your handshape and grip which will probably turn up the best results. (RJN has a good website for easily finding it.) Or, if you are on a budget, there are nice mice which you can find for about $50 - assuming you are in the USA or can order from amazon easily. (Here a few options. Razer Deathadder, CORSAIR Harpoon, Logitech G Pro, one of my favourite mice, seriously.) If your mousepad feels like a problem, you can get one that fits your whole desk lengthwise. You don't have to get a big name brand or anything, just one that has decent quality.
Good luck with your games.

Right now I have a Redragon Perdition and it works well for me. I think I have pretty big hands but it feels super comfortable and the plastic doesn't feel cheap at all. I'm very fond of this brand after moving on from Razer mice. My Razer mice really only ever lasted me about 6 months but this mouse has lasted me 2 years for about half of the price.

A buddy of mine tried the Redragon Mammoth because he didn't want buttons on the side and he said it's a great mouse for the price and it looks to be about the same size.

I didn't trust this brand at first since their stuff came from China but I've been pleasantly surprised. Good build quality, acceptable software, and tons of features for this price point.

I myself use the g.skill km 780, and the keys on it are swapable. It uses cherry mx brown, and is an absolute delight to use. It's built like a tank, and has tons of features plus backlighting.

It was on sale recently for about 60 usd, but there are ofc cheaper options out there. I suggest cherry brown, unless you strictly play FPS and don't type much. In which case cherry red. Others swear by blue/black etc, but to each their own.

I suggest logitech for mice, as my old g500 was an absolute beast. Go for what features you need, along with the shape. Everything else is just a bonus. I avoid razer mice and keyboards, as they tend to be overpriced and prone to failure. Too gimmicky.

Gigabyte makes a great and CHEAP gaming mouse, only 15usd. That, with a solid mechanical keyboard would seem to be a good step, yes?

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-High-Definition-Optical-Tracking-GM-M6800/dp/B0083EZE4M

^ I need to buy this again, as it honestly has the best feel to any mouse I've ever owned. It's a bit light, and I ended up giving it up to my ex. I truly miss that thing.

So, my suggestion to you, get 2 Stinky Boards that you control with your feet. That's 8 buttons which should mostly make up for the loss of major left hand use.

Then get a mouse with lots of buttons like the Logitech G502, Utech Venus, or the Razer Naga line.

It will definitely take some getting used to, but you probably wouldn't need to give up any of the games you love.

The last recommendation I have to further expand your ability to control games with minimal left hand usage is Voice Attack Which lets you program in (assuming someone hasn't built a profile already) sequences of key presses and other things that respond to your voice. When properly set up, it works amazingly for games like Elite: Dangerous when I'm in VR and can't really see the keyboard to use those controls.

Best of luck to you, and hopefully you regain full functionality soon.

Amazon, Newegg, and /r/buildapcsales are your best friends for sales.

For mice, if he's the type that loves a lot of buttons on his mouse, I highly recommend this piece of beauty. I've had it for a couple years now and while it's off-brand (making it $30ish cheaper than comparable mice), it's held up great. It frequently goes on sale for $30.

If he's the type to set up his laptop on a desk when at home and he wants a dedicated keyboard for it, I'd recommend anything mechanical. I have this one and the price it is right now ($90) is fantastic (if not in your budget, that's fine too - there are other mechs for cheaper, usually without the custom lighting)

Won't be a jet engine. But if you want it to be more silent, you could buy 2 more aftermarket coolers. And replace the 2 stock fans.

I am a big fan (pun intended) of Noctua, Be Quiet, Gentle, Bitfenix and some CoolerMaster fans for when on a budget.

As for the peripherals.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
Keyboard | Gigabyte GK-OSMIUM BRN Wired Gaming Keyboard | £74.98 @ Amazon UK
Headphones | Kingston HyperX Cloud Pro Headset | £50.99 @ Amazon UK
Mouse| Logitech G402| £38.00 @ Amazon UK
Mousepad| Qpad FX-44 Large| £18.00 @ Amazon UK
| | Total
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | £181.97
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-10 02:16 GMT+0000 |


Keyboard: MX browns, macro keys, white backlight, nice wristrest, not that expensive. Very suttle look on it as well. I couldn't find to many reviews, but here is an unboxing and overview.
Headphones: Review! Very solid review. It as well matches our build and it's freaking "cheap" for a gaming headset. i wish I had enough money to give this one to my friend where I game with a lot, his headset is terrible and his microphone is a lot worse.
Mouse: Review! Again I don't really need to say more then this. If they still sell this mouse at the time that my own dies, I will get this one. I personally use the G400s wich got a "weaker' sensor and fewer buttons. But is still an amazing mouse.
Mousepad: This is pretty personal, but most people do like a cloth surface. Including myself. A tip when you get it: put it in the dryer for a few minutes. This will remove the wraps that it got after you unpack it. If you don't like the design and want a clean look instead. The SteelSeries heavy is a great alternative, with basicly the same dimensions as the Qpad.

no not refurbished, it's brand new for that much.

here is amazon link https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-M901-PERDITION-High-Precision-Programmable/dp/B00GU8W5AE


for 35 bucks, i figured it's be cheap and break pretty quick or have issues. nope. there's other redragon mouse designs too, gotta assume they are just as good. I want to say they are in line with razer nagas but that may be a bold statement, my brother has a razer, i honestly think the redragon feels a bit.. sturdier, but that's just feel, says nothing about real quality, which, i think they are pretty much even. The software that comes with it is great, set your dpi settings, theres i think 4-5 settings, and tqo buttons behind mouse wheel to switch between them (up and down) and you can customize each one, so like 800 for one, 1200 for another, whatever you want up to 16400 dpi. mousewheel changes color to indicate what setting you're on. The logo and the numbers light up which you can customize that color and if it pulses and how fast. I constantly recommend this mouse to people looking for a cheap, quality alternative. and i think it has 5 star rating on amazon with 2512 reviews. Keep your options open but i can't say enough good things about the price and quality of this mouse. I play overwatch, ffxiv. Love this thing. 34 for black, 37 for the white one, which i wanted but my case is black and i kept that theme.

Headphones first:
Don't buy a headset. A "headset" is composed of a cheap pair of headphone drivers and a cheap microphone wrapped up in a chintzy, "gaming"-flavored package full of LEDs and shit, that gets sold at ridiculous markups. They're heavy and clunky, and honestly sound like crap. I find headset drivers to be almost too bass-heavy and their sound gets muddled. Listening to music on them sounds like you're listening to a recording from a nightclub, and when you play games with them, it's hard to separate one sound from another.

Instead, buy a nice pair of headphones, and a decent desktop microphone, and you'll not only spend less money, but you'll have better sound and a clearer recorded voice. I'd opt for a set of open-ear headphones, because they let you hear your voice as it normally sounds (put in a pair of noise-isolating earbuds or wear a pair of noise-isolating or noise-cancelling headphones and try speaking, you'll sound odd to yourself). For a ~30 Pound price range, I'd recommend these or these.

As for the microphone, just get a lapel microphone (like this one), or a desk microphone like this one (which is the Amazon best-seller for desktop microphones). Or you could get an around-the-ears microphone like this one, that you could then put your headphones over.

Next, for a mouse:
This depends a lot on personal preference. I'd recommend the Razer Deathadder, not only because they have one of the best sensors on the market (maintains perfect tracking even at extremely high speeds with no intrinsic negative acceleration, has adjustable DPI from 400 to 3500, etc.), but also because it is comfortable to hold and comfortable to use. The buttons are satisfying to click, the scroll wheel has just the right amount of tactile feedback, the cable is braided and flexible, etc. This mouse is 47.99 Pounds on Amazon (same link as earlier), but even with a budget three times as high, this is still the mouse I'd buy.

I find the R.A.T. mice to be gimmicks. Yes, you can twist some screws to change their length and whatnot, but the sensors are rather crappy ("DPI" means nothing to the quality of the sensor, you can get a $20 mouse with 3000 DPI; I only use 800 DPI anyways), and I'm also not a fan of how they look/feel. But, as with all mice, this comes down to individual preference.

I rocked a deathadder 2013 for a while and ran into a same issue with the doubleclciking. For something similar, I would consider going with Zowie, which is owned by BenQ, the monitor company that makes some of the best 144hz panels on the market. With Zowie mice, I use an EC-1A which has a nearly identical shape to that of the deathadder, if you want the transition to be smooth for your muscle memory.

For something less expensive, consult the wiki, or roll with a magicforce 108 (since it seems like you need a 10key at an affordable pricepoint) that just came out. They make great starter mechs and have a ton of entry level switch options. I've been rocking a Magicforce 68 key for the better part of the year and have had zero problems with it yet. (Still working on getting my first "real" mech board put together, heh.)

As for headphones, you'll always be better off rolling with a dedicated set of headphones and a separate mic attachment for the price. For a good use in FPS, I'd recommend the Audio Technica ATH-AD700X paired with an Antlion ModMic for a great entry level headset and mic that will give you better positional awareness because of the soundstage.

• Get a better card for the combined cost of them. You can add another card later to that one. It creates less heat, and it has less potential for stuttering or other issues.
  
• Get a CX500 from newegg for a better but still inexpensive PSU.
  
• Get this cheaper but still very good mouse to save money.
  
• With the saved money, get him a better CPU that won't bottleneck any future GPU upgrades he might want later. I recommend the FX-6300 for that.
  
• I've heard bad things about the case you picked making whining sounds of some type (I can't recall specifics). Either way, the NZXT Source 210 is a better option if it is cheaper or the same price for you. You can get a black or white version.
  
• I would recommend Windows 8 because it has significantly better boot times for some users who have regular platter drives. If the start button thing annoys you, you can download something like Start8 to bring it back.
  
• You'll save a decent amount of money if you can get an Ethernet cord to the computer instead of using a wireless card.

I used this mouse for 3 years before I replaced it (60+ hours a week use on average). It's a lesser known brand, but I've enjoyed the mouse a lot, and it's a bit cheaper than the big names (Logitech, Corsair, Razer, and the like). I know you said it takes awhile to save up money for splurges on things like this, but it might be easier to save for since it's a little cheaper. I'm glad you all enjoy your time playing the game!

I love Razer. I love how much they are doing for the gaming scene and eSports scene.

That being said, I have gone through two Blackwidow keyboards and three Naga mice. I wouldn't say that I'm hard on my accessories, but they do see a fair amount of use. My mice lasted around a year to a year and a half on average. When they worked, they were excellent, but too quickly did I start to have problems with the laser.

Since then I bought this random Reddragon mouse that was half the price on amazon and I have put it through about three years of work and it's still holding up great.

Razer looks great, works great for a while, but I compare it now to the beats by Dre, strong marketing and appearance, but low quality for the price.

A friend of mine used a Naga for years and swore by it. It broke, and I bought him one of these as a present. $36. He'll never go back. As an aside, the OMRON microswitches in the mouse make it feel absolutely glorious.

Redragon Perdition

EDIT: Also, keypads can be great if you want to manage the camera separately with a hat button, but you have the problem that you start be almost completely unable to play any game if you don't have it with you.

I would recommend that instead you get used to ESDF for movement instead of WASD. It frees up an extra finger and puts your hand in range of 3 extra keys, as well as making shift more comfortable to hit with your pinky and alt easier to hit with your thumb.

EDIT 2: You could also consider grabbing a mechanical keyboard. Get one with the switches you like the feel of the most. Go to a store and try out all the different switch types and then find a deal when you can. It'll set you back $80-$140 bucks though.

Ok,i currently use the Roccat Kone XTD got it 2 years ago and its still AMAZING ! If this mouse every breaks i will get a Zowie FK1 (currently out of stock for amazon but you can get it somewhere else). The Zowie FK1 somewhat forces you to have it a "clawgrip" which makes your aim more accurate. And when i used it at my friends house i sometimes forgot that im using it. :) (same goes for the Kone XTD) I have Semi Big hands :) EDIT: i heard the Corsair Vengance mouse is REALLY REALLY good too. Its optimized for FPS games. EDIT2: And you should probably take a look at this mouse :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F02WUpZBRck

My specialty, cheap gaming peripherals!

Here are some of my recommendations:

E-3lue Mazer II wireless

Cheap but good Anker mouse

Cheaper alternative to the Razer Naga


For higher range mice, in the 50-100$ range, I'd suggest either sticking with Logitech or Razer. I personally use a Logitech G9X mouse, considered by a lot of people (myself included) to be THE BEST gaming mouse ever made, however it only has 5 buttons and currently costs over 180$.

However, this is one that I'm eyeballing pretty hard, since it has a ton of buttons and is wireless, thus easier to take with me travelling.

My biggest suggestion, however, is to find a mouse that has interchangeable weights. I know it sounds like a silly gimmick, but by having different weights you can fine-tune your mouse to different playstyles and games. A heavier mouse allows for more precision (think long range sniper shots), whereas a lighter mouse allows for better reaction time. Once you use a weighted mouse it's very hard to go back.

I recommend the Zowie EC1-A (I have the older version of this mouse, but just read the first review on that page, the guy nails everything).

I also came from a Deathadder and love this mouse even more (with my only gripe being the side thumb buttons, just like the guy in the review above).

The shape of the EC1-A is very similar to the DA, however if the DA is shaped like )( on the sides, the EC1 is shaped like )). A small difference, but one that you will quickly adapt to. It fits your hand like a glove.

The EC1 beats out the DA in a few different aspects:

• Very light rubber cord
  
  
• Huge mousefeet (with a spare set included)
  
  
• Stiffer switches (never a miss-click)
  
  
• No software to fuck with
  
  I think the DA beats the EC1 on two points:
  
  
• Better thumb buttons
  
• Better scroll wheel for browsing internet and all around gaming (but Zowie's has more rigid/harder notches which I prefer in FPS games)
  
  At this point I will never buy another mouse that isn't Zowie, for FPS gaming.

I'm looking for a mouse recommendation under the following parameters:

Price: absolute max of $55 but ideally more like $40.

I have more of a palm grip. I play mostly FPS and I also use it to work.

I have average size hands but tend to not like small mice very much.

I don't particularly care about having a lot of programmable buttons. Wireless is cool but I don't need it. I'd rather have a better sensor.

I'd like a mouse that doesn't look like it was designed by a 9 year-old who likes spaceships (nothing against those who do).

My options right now are Mionix Naos 3200, Steelseries Rival 300 or Logitech G402, which are about the same price right now. I also saw the G303 on sale at Best Buy but I'm worried that it is a bit small for my taste. I'm open to other suggestions as well.

Any recommendations?

Mouse Pad - Reflex Lab Pro

I've used this everyday for over 6 months now and it's holding up well. One of my favorite purchases, having so much space for my mouse hand is great for competitive FPS games.

Mouse - Zowie EC1-A

This mouse is the real deal. Great responsiveness, feels great in my hand, a button with 4 DPI settings that I can't accidentally press in the middle of play, and no annoying software to install. Very simple with just 5 buttons.

Keyboard - Corsair Vengeance K65 Mechanical

Wasn't my first choice of keyboard, but I have no regrets. Keys feel great with red switches, although it's very loud without any dampeners. Recommend o-rings if you have an open mic.

Wrist Rest - Glorious Gaming

Despite the cringey name, they seem to have a decent reputation for their products, and though I've had mine for a short time, it's lasted well and has been very comfortable. I was unsure of the thickness at first, but I find I prefer a thicker wrist rest.

Headphones - Superlux HD681 EVO

I'm not anything close to an audiophile, so I can't comment too much on the sound. They're plenty loud enough, and sound decent enough to me. More importantly, for me anyway, is their durability and comfortability. They've lasted me nearly 2 years now and the foam pieces are only just starting to crack and wear down with heavy use. They even included a spare pair, which I haven't felt the need to use yet. They're great to use for extended periods of time as well. They don't start to bother me unless they're not sitting right, or I've just spent too long at the computer.

Microphone - Zalman Zm-Mic1

Has a 10ft wire and is under $10. It's kind of hard to beat, as far as mics go. Very durable, mine is 5 years old. I even spilled rum and coke in it once, still works fine. The sound quality is rather lacking, but that's to be expected from a mic this cheap.

Gamepad - Xbox One controller for emulators, Steam Controller for everything else

Keep in mind that most of these will have a generic stiff shit cable nor can I promise the shape will be for you.

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If you also plan on playing FPS with it:

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For 20 USD(!) back at 30 USD, the Havit HV-MS735 is a pretty good budget option. Has a 3360 sensor, 12 grid, side scroll, and is ~107 grams with the internal weight removed, which isn't too bad for a 12 grid mouse, not to mention it being at the current price that it is.

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At 30 USD, the updated Redragon M901 is the lightest 12 grid mouse available with a 3360. Has an additional button on the left side, and doesn't require any opening up to remove the weights. Weighs in at only 87 grams without weights.

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At 60 USD (50 refurbished), the Corsair Scimitar is a 12 grid mouse with a 336X variant. Has the gimmick with adjusting the 12 grid, which is actually not too bad because if a 12 grid doesn't sit exactly right, you either lose full functionality or comfort. Unfortunately weighs a buttload at ~120 grams, which is normally a deal breaker for some.

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Of course the Naga Trinity, which has the side panel gimmick. If the cable is like any recent Razer mouse, it'll have the best cable of the bunch by far. Also ~120 grams, so another monster in the weight class.

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If you don't care about having a good sensor:

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Logitech G600 at ~34 USD is an okay mouse. Logitech software is a lot better than Synapse and the crap the Chinese OEMs have. Has a pretty garbage sensor in it though, so FPS is going to be a no go.

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Honestly though, the HV-MS735 and M901 are good. Unless you insist on using a mainstream mouse or dislike Chinese OEM software, the Redragon M901 is amazing due its weight class and the HV-MS734 is a budget god at 20 USD is still really good at 30 USD if you want side scroll.

If you mean how hard is the physical pressing action, it does not take much pressure. The buttons are small. I'd say it's about the same amount of pressure to push one as it does a normal key on a keyboard.

If you mean how easy is it to reach all of them? All 12 buttons are concentrated in a rectangle that measures probably 1"x2". For me, reaching buttons 1-9 is pretty easy without even having to shift my thumb at all. Buttons 10-12 took some getting used to but now it's second nature.

The biggest hurdle is just adjusting your muscle memory to using the mouse buttons for the majority of your actions. It took several play sessions to get used to it. To be honest, I felt like I was pretty worthless at first because I'd get lost in the heat of battle trying to remember what key I needed to hit. Lost several GCD's every now and then and also casted the wrong spell plenty of times. After a few sessions, it all pretty much clicked though and now it's second nature.

Don't switch to this style and expect an immediate improvement. You will get worse before you get better. Just like if you totally change up your keybinds, your body has to adjust.

Here is the mouse I bought. It's pretty cheap, so hopefully if you think it will help you, the investment is minimal. They make higher dollar ones that are probably better, so you can check those out too if you don't like this one.

They call them MMO gaming mice. If you want to search for that on amazon

1: Well if you are looking to build a PC, I can't help you. But google may be able to. And if you are looking for advice on what to use to build one, there is /r/BuildMeAPC.

2: From what I know of computers, not much. Laptops aren't the best thing to be playing CS on. Everyone will say that. Even Globals in Rank-S who won MLG KatowiceHack Open One Winter Colonge 2018.

3: I would assume? Again I have no clue. These are mostly computer questions you should google rather than asking for advice on a CSGO forum.

4: ??? I don't think there is a way to make the console show only the damage you dealt after death. Unless you are throwing a nade I don't think that is possible.

5: It's like matchmaking but better. With better players who are way above the skill level of GN3. I haven't even started ESEA and i'm DMG. You should probably only start when you get better.

ESEA is not free, however you are right. It seems they took the cost off of the front page. I believe normal was $7 a month last time I checked and premium was $15? But if you want to find out for sure, you can create an account like they seem to want you to to find out.

6: Personally, I use a Logitec G502 and have very few complaints. However right now that is around $70 so its a bit out of your price range. I found the Razer DeathAdder Croma for $54 with a quick google search, and the reviews for it seem good, but I can't speak personally about it. It (kinda) has a similar shape to the one you had before.

7: You need one that clicks for lack of a better word. Infinately spinning mousewheels don't work as a measure has been put in place to stop you from achiving Bhop by simply just mashing the space key and the same effect applies here. With a little practice with the mousewheel, you wont be super consistent like on say a Bhop map, but you can land 3 or 4 Bhops consistently.

Hope that helps a bit.

the corsair saber is only $50 on newegg

the final mouse is a driverless mouse with one of the highest quality sensors you can buy. they save money by using an OEM housing. they are some of the lightest mice you can buy. every member of the finalmouse team is legendary eagle level or higher. its made by esports players for esports players.

the havit and red dragon look like ok entry level mouse. the build quality is suspect and they use unknown sensors. from a purely bang/buck they might be your best option as they are so cheap they only have to work.

if you want something a little nicer without breaking the bank, the corsair m65($45) or logitech g502($60) are great large mice.

the steelseries rival 100($34) is as budget as i can recommend. great build quality, and a great sensor for the money

I wanted to buy a Zowie after reading this subredit, but they seem to be out of stock on Amazon and I will have one imported from Canada (a friend lives there and another friend will visit him, so he will buy it for me). The bad thing is I dont have much time to waste. As my friend will be coming back from Canada around June the 20th.


So, I have some options that are currently available on Amazon:

• Rival 300
  
  
• Rival 700 (currently out of stock, might keep an eye on it every day to see if its on stock again, if it is really worh it)
  
  
• SteelSeries Sensei (https://www.amazon.ca/SteelSeries-Sensei-Laser-Gaming-Rubberized/dp/B007N6HS3G/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1464305270&sr=8-2&keywords=steelseries+mouse)
  
  
• Roccat Kone Pure Military
  
  
• M65 RGB PRO
  
  
• G502
  
  
  Ps: I mainly play Smite, so I dunno what would be the best option. Despite Smite being a MOBA, it requires a lot of skillshot, so maybe an FPS mouse would suit me better than a regular MOBA mouse (when I play, I only use left and right click on the mouse. The scroll wheel only when I'm in the item store)
  
  Thanks for reading.
  
  
  Edit: formatting is hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J14fyar5ns

This guy ^ is great for mice.

If you're looking for general purpose, the Logitech G900 is great but pricey depending on where you are. In the UK I can get it for £80 which is pretty good considering it's one of the best mice out there.

For FPS, Zowie FK2 and Logitech G303 are ones to look into. Or a Razer.

Make sure you measure your hand size, the guy above tells you how, and compare to his recommendations. Also identify what your grip type is: palm, finger or claw, as that can matter.

edit: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-910-004380/dp/B00TKFD51M G303 is around your budget.

Logitech G502 is always a good choice, but if you like MOBAs you might be interested in an MMO mouse. I've been using my Redragon Perdition M901 for years and it's still going strong, and it feels great. Highly recommend if you're interested in such a mouse.

NAGA EPIC USER HERE

I just dumped mine after the 3rd RMA. The original Nagas (2012) were amazing but the recent iterations have been pretty poor. Here are the options I found:

Corsair Scimitar Pro This is a smaller mouse than the naga, but provides the 12 button pad and has great software to boot

Logitech G600 This one is just a little too bulky for me, I have very small hands, but it is logitech. The dual dish feature is too weird for me.

Steelseries Rival 500 Not your standard layout, but a good sensor. Large mouse , very similar to the naga epic.

In the end, I went with the Rival 500, because I liked the features (programmable rumble support) and the Pixart 3360 Optical Sensor was a good choice. It is heavy, so not ideal for fps, but i use it anyways.

Also, there is always knockoff on amazon. My brother has this one and he loves it. Eh?

Hmm. Well luckily there are lots of options for small mice so it shouldn't be an issue. Possibly even the diamondback, I believe the reason its not well reviewed is its unergonomic flat shape, most mice fit the hand better but of course this could be good for some people. Anyways moving on:

Logitech G Pro https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Gaming-Advanced-Sensor-Competitive/dp/B01JPOLLTK/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1481510038&sr=1-1&keywords=logitech+g+pro
Confusingly it actually is named the G Pro. Its basically a small, simple mouse but it has the best sensor on the market and is made by Logitech so it should in theory last a while.

Zowie za13 https://www.amazon.com/Zowie-Competitive-Gaming-Optical-ZA13/dp/B012B6XVKQ
This is their only mouse listed as small. I haven't personally tried one though, but their ec2-a has the same internals and is widely regarded as a good mouse, I liked it.

If you want any other suggestions or help let me know!

https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Rival-Optical-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B0160USMW6

The Rival 300 is such a good, comfortable, no-BS mouse that I have an extra one in box should my current one fail. (It hasn't, in over three years. I haven't been as lucky with Razer and Logitech.) You can adjust DPI and color on it if you want, but I keep the color off, found one DPI and stuck with it.

With keyboards, mechanicals are the best on the market. They really do feel a lot better to press. They're also usually easy to pop the keys on and off, and usually are easy to clean. You also don't need a $179 keyboard, unless you like LEDs a lot. https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-STRAFE-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00ZUPOMDQ/ I like Corsair keyboards and the Cherry Red switch. Not too loud, good feel to them.

Layouts, if you feel up to starting from scratch, you might take the time to jump into TheCore: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/341878-thecore-advanced-keyboard-layout or, alternatively, TheCore Lite: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-strategy/333891-thecore-lite-advanced-keyboard-layout These provide options for all 10 control groups to be accessible.

Razor Deathadder Chroma is a pretty good gaming mouse. You can turn the LED off pretty easily so its not "xxgamerxx" I'm a pretty hardcore gamer. I use the deathadder. Haven't had any problems with it. Very accurate.

Marathon Mouse is super comfortable in my hand, i used it for a good 4-5 years before i replaced it. Very normal looking, very comfy. Recommend it to anyone that is a moderate-to-allday computer user.

Okay, so since you are playing "competitive games": this matters, if you arent than all that matters is the luxury standards you will accept, in your case you want a mouse with the best sensor available for your price. which looks like 36$ (I dont know how much shipping will cost) Keyboard however does not exactly matter as much as long as it suits your needs and modern day keyboards do not have as bad ghosting anymore that it wouldnt hold you back, (unless you are playing starcraft with a million keybinds and apm) so any usb keyboard you want is fine, Mouses are usually a little more expensive for the added advantage they will give you in competitive gaming, but generally nowadays top mouses are ones with a 3310/3360/3366 sensors in them but there are a few which are still good for cheaper options such as the 3059SS, common unknown brandcheap amazon/ebay mouses will not feature any of these sensors and present a noticable disadvantage in game when compared to one of these and lack quality, Sorry for the rant.
TLDR:

Smaller mouse, popular loved, decent sensor, good price!
https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Rival-Optical-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B015WKY3FU/ref=pd_lpo_147_lp_t_4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=AE17BKGQ5CD6P2P38H8N 30$

Bit bigger mouse, 2nd best sensor on the market, top 40 rated mouse, Newer, on sale!
1$ over budget https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LZVNWIA/ref=s9_acsd_simh_hd_bw_bRCy5r_c_x_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_r=RNHYCH8QH7YGSGFZN8VM&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=92298731-558b-5a64-b47d-713bc9d1bdaf&pf_rd_i=402052011

If you can spare a couple more dollars I highly suggest you take the G402 fast. as I doubt this sale will last too long, but if your budget is really tight the SSR100 is not a bad choice! :)

Edit: typos.

>is it really true that dpi is just a marketing ploy?

Pretty much.
Here is a slightly outdated but still relevant spreadsheet of CSGO pro player setups.

I'd recommend the logitech g203 prodigy, which you can snag for like 30 bucks.
Nearly identical to the g-pro, but without the 50 dollar pricetag, and with a slightly less over the top sensor which has effectively no impact on how well it performs.
2 side buttons + an extra center button; more than enough for FPS games or anything that doesn't require a dozen side button binds.

If you don't already have one, you'll also want a good quality decently sized mousepad with plenty of extra room to use a moderate/lower sensitivity if that's something you'll find helpful.
Standard office sized mousepads leave you cramped for movement room and a lot of people using them end up using sensitivity way too high to compensate.
You can find good pads for around and under $10.

I'm looking for a new mouse to replace my cheap E-3lue Cobra because the scroll wheel isn't super responsive anymore. I've loved this mouse mostly because of how light it is and the two side buttons. Also, the adjustable DPI is pretty handy for games that handle sensitivity differently. Anyways, here's my answers to the list.

• Games I'll be playing: Overwatch and Witcher 3 mostly for now, but I play just about anything from FPS to RPGs.
  
• I'm right handed
  
• Not looking to spend more than $50
  
• Hand size: probably about 20 cm
  
• Preferred grip type: Fingertip grip
  
• Weight preference: Lighter is better, imo. My current mouse is 4 ounces and it feels about perfect
  
• One mouse I'm looking at is the Steel Series Rival 300. Would this fit the bill for me?
  
• Also, I don't need more than 6 buttons (LMB, RMB, DPI, and two side buttons). Anything more than that is excessive for me.
  
  Thanks!
  

Wow that was way more information that I had anticipated. It's clear that you've given it a lot of thought.

Honestly as a somewhat fully enabled person myself, I had problems with The Witcher 3 on launch too. I just couldn't wrap my head around some of the default key binds and was happy that I could change them.

I know that WoW somewhat recently added a lot of color blind options for I think the 3 most common types of color blindness. I have no idea how successful they are.

Have you looked into any of the crazy MMO specific mice? There's a few that I'd think would be almost perfect for a usecase such as yours. The Roccat NYTH is fully modular, letting you place the physical buttons in different configurations, remove buttons or add different sized buttons. Then there's those mice with a hundred buttons on the side like the UtechSmart Venus or the Razer Naga. One of those might help you eliminate your keyboard turning. Though, we've had people in our raids that for one reason or another needed to use the keyboard rather than their mice and they seemed to do just fine. I think the whole "Keyboard turning" vs "Mouse Turning" is a similar argument to keyboard & Mouse vs Console Controller.

The reason I ask is not only do I have friends who've been in somewhat similar situations, thought not quite as extreme and because in my line of work I have to implement measures to support people with different abilities.

I'm a programmer at a college who's currently interim webmaster until we find a new one and I have to implement 508 Compliance.

I also have large hands, currently am using a DeathAdder 2013 but before that I had a cheap gigabyte mouse that is big and feels great in hand, also it's great for FPS

NOTE: I changed to DeathAdder because I wanted to get a better mouse, the Gigabyte one is still alive.

15$

I've never used a deathadder, but if I could make some recommendations, the Logitech G400 and Perixx MX-2000B are really good mice in my experience. the [G400] (http://amzn.com/B0055QZ216) is particularly liked by the people over at /r/mousereview for its sensor, and it's just a nice looking, minimal mouse. I just got the [Perixx MX-2000B] (http://amzn.com/B0083H4NG4) and while it's a branded version of a mouse that some other companies use, I can tell you it's a very comfortable mouse to use and works well in gaming. Doesn't hurt that it's $31.99 and you get stuff like LED customization and weight tuning.

Well taking into account your price range I would say this is probably your best bet; the logitech G402.

It's £40-45 but it is a really reliable accurate mouse. I used to use it myself before I got a razer deathadder (more expensive). The two buttons on the side are comfortable for your thumb, and there are also 2 more up on the clicker. They don't get in the way though and are actually pretty difficult to click, I never even used them, so don't worry about those ones.

The mouse is accurate, reliable, pretty light and free-flowing. Just get a good mouse mat (would recommend steelseries qck) and download the logitech gaming software to adjust your DPI to something you like.

mechanical keyboards are definetely nicer to play on(clicky and easy to tell when you press a key), but are more expensive, a gaming mouse will make a difference if the sensor is better than your current one.

For 60$ I would say

• Logitech G303 Mouse
  
  
• Large Steelseries mousepad
  
  The large mousepad helps a lot and is really nice to use, so you can play on a lower sensitivity which will help you aim in games.
  
  if you do get the money later on, you could get a mechanical keyboard like this one which had brown switches (more quiet but still "clicky").

A little while ago, I went looking for a cool mouse that wasn't too expensive.

While it's hard to call a 40 dollar mouse cheap, this guy fit the bill.

Never heard of the company before I saw it, supposedly they're Chinese. Wherever they're from, they're pretty decent.

It's comfortable.

It has a ridiculous amount of buttons. About half of the 12 buttons on the side are pretty easy to get to without really trying. Luckily, they're also surprisingly large, so once you get used to the mouse, it's easy not to missclick.

The software that comes with it is probably one of my favourite parts. The mouse is hugely customizable, and the software makes is particularly easy. It even comes with scripts for things like multiple key press macros, or the windows "show desktop" button.

If you're wondering, yeah the lights do change colours, you can use a palette in the software to change the colours at will. I've also got a button on the bottom you can press to change profiles, one of which you can set to turn the LEDs off.

I'm a bit late to the party but I would highly recommend this. It is cheap and amazing, slightly on the small side but it is great. It has an adjustable weight, macros, custom led, DPI button so you can change your DPI on the fly. Highly recommend and for the price its 100% worth it!

Okay, I currently have this mouse, a Steelseries Rival 300.

I've had it for about two years now and the right click button stopped working(it acts like I'm clicking it repeatedly when I'm actually just holding it down). I opened it up, cleaned it pretty thoroughly, but it didn't fix it. Actually, now my left button is acting up so I'm about to just throw it in the trash. I'm actually planning on getting the same mouse, but just wanted to see first if anyone has recommendations for a different, but similar mouse. Maybe try something different and see if I actually like it better. I just want something about as large and with the two extra buttons on the side. Nothing crazy.

I've had the Razer Deathadder in the past and I did like it, but I prefer the Rival due to the slightly larger size as it fits my hand better.

Lemme know if you have any quesitons.

Keep in mind that these prices are not final or the best available. PCPartPicker just takes whatever listings it finds on the internet. Generally, these parts are cheaper. There's also resources like /r/BuildAPCSales where you can find cheaper prices (more on that later).

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor | $109.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler | Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler | $26.88 @ OutletPC
Motherboard | ASRock Z170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $89.99 @ Newegg
Memory | Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory | $49.98 @ Newegg
Storage | Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $44.88 @ OutletPC
Video Card | XFX Radeon RX 460 4GB Video Card | $114.00 @ Amazon
Case | Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case | $38.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply | Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply | $49.99 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $534.70
| Mail-in rebates | -$10.00
| Total | $524.70
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-19 11:16 EST-0500 |

 

Here is a guide on how to overclock the CPU in this build: http://overclocking.guide/asrock-z170-non-k-overclocking-guide/

Here is a benchmark of the CPU in TF2: https://youtu.be/JMb1Hr2nmJo

Min. FPS 105 | Max. FPS 287 | Avg. FPS 156

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1920x1080|16:9|Fullscreen
Model detail: High|Texture detail: High|Shader detail: High
Water detail: Reflect all|Shadow detail: High|Anti-aliasing mode: 8x MSAA
Filtering mode: Anisotropic 16X|VSync: Disabled|Motion blur: Enabled

The GPU used in the video is more expensive. The RX 460 performance is comparable, is newer and has more VRAM. TF2 doesn't really care about the GPU, anyway.

Tweaking the settings and using some configs can easily get you more FPS.

 

# Saving money.

As I mentioned above, /r/BuildAPCSales is a fantastic place to find deals on PC parts. There's a few things to keep in mind, though.

Parts you cannot replace from the list:

CPU
Motherboard

The CPU (i3-6100) has hyperthreading, which essentially means the CPU performs better. The motherboard was also the cheapest that supports overclocking, which extends the life of your PC. If you change one of these two parts, I cannot guarantee that they will work together or support overclocking.

Parts you can replace from the list:

RAM (Memory) (DDR4 only)
Storage (SSD and HDD)
GPU (Graphics Card)
PSU (Powersupply)

RAM must be DDR4, it's very easy to tell because it will always be in the title. Any RAM that is labeled DDR3 or DDR2 will not work with the PC.

SSDs are insanely fast. The caveat is that they are expensive for their GB size. Any SSD will work with the PC, so if you find a bigger SSD for a cheaper price, go for it.

HDDs are slow, but affordable in large sizes. The difference is that games on SSDs will load faster, while games on HDDs will load slower. Keep the games you want to load fast on the SSD, and other games, movies, music, etc. on the bigger HDD.

PSUs are tricky and I don't recommend picking a different one. The one I chose leaves room for upgrades, is easier to use and, most importantly, is reliable. A non-reliable PSU can destroy your PC. Trust me, just stick with the one I chose or ask /r/BuildAPC if another one you find cheaper is reliable.

# Peripherals

Good mechanical keyboard: TOMOKO 87 Key Blue Switch Mechanical Keyboard, $34.99 USD

Good gaming mice: Logitech G300s, $24.90 USD, SteelSeries Rival 100, $29.88 USD, Corsair Harpoon RGB, $29.99 USD

1080p, low response time monitor: Acer G226HQL 21.5", $89.99 USD

Hello! I am a huge fan of the SteelSeries products, but had to replace mine recently due to it dropping clicks a little to frequently for my liking. I switched over to the Razer Deathadder Chroma, and have been extremely happy with it! Here's a link to it on amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Chroma-Multi-Color-Ergonomic/dp/B00MYTSDU4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1458700387&sr=8-2&keywords=razer+mouse

Another good one is the SteelSeries Rival 700
https://steelseries.com/gaming-mice/rival-700

I hope this helps!

ungrinch

Ok something contest winning worthy

I stepped on a wana (Sea urchin) Proof

bonus points

Not sure on what you mean by "dark films" but THIS is one of the most brutal movies I have ever seen. you can get it HERE.

And I am also a gamer. and I just got some new stuff for PC gaming.

Razer Kraken 7.1 Chroma Sound USB Gaming Headset

Razer DeathAdder Chroma

Razer BlackWidow Chroma Mechanical Gaming Keyboard

I dont know what your budget is but the Keyboard Is so good! Its back lit and you can change the color of each key if you wanted too. HERE is a better look at it. and I know the headset you can use with a PS4 but I don't know about 3.The mouse is nice too! but if she is more of a console gamer that plays PC games I would look in to Razer Sabertooth (I know Im a razer fan boy) but there stuff works great! Im going to be looking it to getting me a Sabertooth soon too.

OR you can combined 2 things Like Russian shit + candy = THIS

Hope this helps! and thanks for the contest

Hi, wired mouse user here because I also play stuff like League, Overwatch, and various other MMOs.

I'm using this mouse atm:

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-910-004380/dp/B00TKFD51M/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1480837581&sr=1-1&keywords=g303

It's actually a medium sized mouse so if you have, I guess, average sized hands then here is a good option. This mouse glows up on the logo and on the sides, but if you want to make it change to different colors or have a pulse effect, then you have to download the Logitech program thingy. There are no rubber parts on the mouse, so it is actually quite easy to keep clean. The design is also very neat. You can also customize your DPI if you have downloaded the program, which is actually very useful if you want to keep the same DPI that you are used to with your previous mice. I bought it around 6 months ago after my Razor Deathadder's buttons broke down, and it is still going strong. Currently, it is only $40 on Amazon.

Yes you will be, sorry I forgot about the mouse and keyboard :( I failed at that.

I have that EXACT video card and I game on one and watch youtube, stream, skype on the other. It's a 1080P killer card so it runs every game I have thrown at it in Ultra High no problem.

I like the 970 of the R9 because 1 power consumption, 2 the size, and 3 I personally think it's just the best card you can get for the price. Other's will argue with me, can call me an NVIDIA fan boy, but one thing that NVIDIA has over the AMD is optimization for the games. A lot less bugs and better support for games.

As for keyboard and mouse, personally, I just have a regular keyboard and I have a gaming mouse that I found on Amazon for 40 bucks that I absolutely love, but everyone games differently so it's up to you. My philosophy is, if it has great reviews then it can't hurt to try it. I'll throw the Window's Key on there, sorry the site is running really slow here at work.

Check out this mouse: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E4MQODC?redirect=true&pldnSite=1

It's from Logitech and a lot of people I know have used it for a very long while with no issues. I do not have it personally but I thought I would recommend you to look into it as it is 40$ right now.

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If you are looking for a CSGO mouse that will guarantee you the most precise aim you can get from a mouse, this is another logitech mouse that is absolutely amazing and has one of the best sensors on the market currently: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G403-Prodigy-Wireless-Gaming-Mouse-Performance/dp/B01KUAMCWI

It is Wired/Wireless (wired is cheaper, wireless is more). It is 80$ though so it'll be 30$ above your budget. All up to you :)

Also, what mouse which you guys recommend? I am currently looking at this. It's a relatively unknown companies but it has a great price and great reviews. I would love to hear everyones input!

Honestly, I couldn't recommend the [Deathadder] (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Razer-Deathadder-Ergonomic-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B00ABS62C6) more. It's one of the greatest mice I've ever had,and it fits my hand great. However, if that's not your thing, the Roccat Kone XTD optical is pretty great, and has tons of utility-options.

pc-kombo shared list

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-9700K | 459.00€ @ alternate
Motherboard | Gigabyte Z390 UD | 124.99€ @ Amazon.de
Memory | G.Skill Aegis DDR4 DDR4-2800 16GB (16 GB) | 73.90€ @ alternate
SSD | Western Digital Blue 3D (1 TB) | 119.00€ @ Amazon.de
Video Card | INNO3D GeForce RTX 2080 X2 OC | 735.00€ @ Amazon.de
Case | NZXT H500i Midi-Tower - white Window | 109.90€ @ alternate
Power Supply | BitFenix Formula (650 W) | 85.84€ @ Amazon.de
CPU Cooler | Noctua NH-D14 - 140/120mm | 74.90€ @ alternate
Operating System | WIN10 32 HOME EN - Windows 10 Home, 32 Bit, englisch (COEM) | 109.90€ @ alternate
| Total | 1898.42€
| Generated by pc-kombo 16.05.2019 |

Overclockable i7 on a solid board + RTX 2080 for 144Hz gaming. The build has enough ram, a 1TB SSD, a high quality psu and a white H500i - the H700i is too expensive, but if you like that one you will like the 500i as well. 100€ left for mouse and keyboard, many options here, even nice budget options like https://www.amazon.de/Gigabyte-GM-M6800-1600dpi-Optisch-Maus/dp/B0083EZE4M/ref=sr_1_1 and https://www.amazon.de/CHERRY-KC1000-corded-Keyboard-ultraflat/dp/B00HEACSJA/ will work just fine (and save some money for the shipping). I limited the vendor selection to alternate and amazon.de, that way it should be possible to order the parts to Ireland.

My suggestion is the Logitech G305 for $10 over your budget, but it's got the best wireless sensor on the market. It isn't gamerized by any means and you can add macros to the side buttons if that's what you want. I really like the scroll wheel as well, it's rubberized and textured with distinct steps that aren't too tactile.

For a cheaper wired version, the Logitech G203 is the same mouse only it's using the gold-standard wired sensor. It has RGB, but you can turn it off. Other than that, it has the exact same features and shape.

A friend of mine bought the CM Devastator, but that was like 3 years ago and I don't remember what the mouse felt like(if the scroll wheel was mushy in comparison), but either of these are a lot better.

Granted, I'm using a G Pro which is yet another of the same style, it's just a little older and more expensive than the G203.

I had a g502 that I sold to get a Red Dragon Perdition.

Easily the most comfortable mouse I've ever used. I got it for all the buttons on the side and because I used my friends and it was so damn comfy. Its also really inexpensive. I actually don't use the buttons a lot, but I use 1 and 3 for leaning and 4 for push to talk. Also has software to change sensitivity settings, different profiles, lighting (colors and brightness), as well as changing what the side buttons do.

Although I recommend getting the black one. It has a nice gritty/grippy feeling while the white one is, for whatever reason, glossy, smooth, and a bit slippery. I have never seen this mouse recommended, but I love it way more than the g502, or any other mouse I've used.

1. Gaming mice tend to be quite pricey if you get a branded one. Unless you're a pro (like super precise fps stuff) I highly recommend Perixx. Its literally half the price, mine's been working great for the past 4 years and its on amazon.
   https://www.amazon.com/Perixx-MX-2000-Programmable-Gaming-Laser/dp/B0083H4NG4/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1479459405&sr=8-1&keywords=Perrix
   
   
2. As for LED lighting, again HUE+ is quite expensive for the functionality. Go for https://www.amazon.com/Tingkam-RGB-Attached-Controller-Generation/dp/B01HXPPUR2/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1479459584&sr=1-5&keywords=led+pc+lighting
   If you want something that just works.
   
   
3. I got myself a drone last year but ended up playing with it like 3-4 times. There's a very high chance that it'll just end up in storage
   
   
4. Personally I recommend a nice tech backpack or satchel. Checkout CaseCrown for tech orientated packs
   https://www.casecrown.com/product-category/bags/
   

Isn't this a pretty standard price for this thing? I also don't really think it's a good price for an older mouse like this, with a laser sensor especially.

If you're absolutely in love with steelseries or the general shape get a rival 100 for $24, or $16 if you can catch it on their website(it has a better sensor for gaming, and similar button layout/shape for non-gaming use):

https://www.walmart.com/ip/SteelSeries-Rival-100-Optical-Mouse-Black/48463286

https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Rival-Optical-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B015WKY3FU?th=1

https://steelseries.com/gaming-mice/rival-100


Or if you have more to spend, you can pretty easily pick up mice with better sensors for $35~$40 from logitech, razer corsair or even steelseries themselves.

Did you try this with a different set of mouse & keyboard, and try to check drivers in device manager, if any caution triangle symbol ⚠️, right click on it and try to update drivers, if it says where to get drivers just say search automatically. After successfull updates restart PC and try with the old peripherals. If works great but If problem still persists then it might be one of the following :

1. Faulty drivers, Format OS.
   
   
2. problem with keyboard and mouse, replace them if they have warranty or buy Logitech everything.
   Best keyboard - https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-keyboards/g512-mechanical-gaming-keyboard.html#920-008722
   
   Take the linear keys version is the best.
   Best mouse -
   https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Gaming-Advanced-Sensor-Competitive/dp/B01JPOLLTK
   
   Best mouse and they both are RGB.
   
   
3. Motherboard needs a CMOS reset and everything might work fine.
   
   
4. last ditch effort, replace motherboard.
   
   Let me know how it goes.

Wow this is a really big giveaway. Thanks for giving back, most people in your position wouldn't.

As for my requested item. I would like a new mouse as I have had the same mouse for awhile now. The price is $53.54. Thanks again OP and enjoy your winnings!

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Chroma-Multi-Color-Comfortable/dp/B00MYTSDU4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478061823&sr=8-1&keywords=razer+mouse&refinements=p_89%3ARazer

I have a friend that is left handed and play CS:GO and DOTA with me all the time. He is quite a bit older, but he just kind of got used to playing with his right hand on the mouse. If he really needs it. Then getting an ambidextrous mouse would work wonders like the Mionix Avior 7000. A well regarded mouse or the Razer Deathadder is another amazing mouse.

I tried it and it is really too big for me. If palm on my hand on the mouse, the hump is too high and it makes me feel really inconfortable (my arm muscle's are working hard to hand it, thats bad). While the ZA 12 was too small to palm perfectly (it also gave me a lot of pain, more than the za 11).

I tried ZA-11 and ZA-12 and they are not made for me. The SteelSerie Laser Sensei Raw (images of dimensions : https://images-eu.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/02/uk-videogames/2011/dp/B007N6HS3G/image4._V145389784_.jpg) stayed the better to play long time.

what i can say about the sensei raw is that it is a little too short (my two right figners can't be perfectly rested on the side when handing it hard), and that's their somehow something that make it not the best to wrist movements (although wrist movements are possible), I think because of it's size and shape.

I'll give it a try to the EC1A, who seems to be used by pro fps players. I don't know if it will fit as the hump is higher than the ZA11 but also it's a bit more further on the mouse.

If it's not ok, I guess i'll give a try to the FK1 or FK1+.

I hope I'll be able to find a good mouse and play again! I tried quickly the death adder chroma today, it seems good, althoug again it could be a little bit longer to be able ro make my finger rests perfectly on the side.

I used to have the razer naga mouse, wasn't bad but I had some issues with it pretty soon, double click, wheel pushing stopped working, and I read this happens pretty often, so once it stopped working completely I got this cheap one https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Programmable-Precision-Buttons-Windows/dp/B00GU8W5AE

While it does feel and look a little cheap, I'm super happy with it, had it for like a year now, no issue whatsoever. A very pleasant and unexpected surprise.

Just go with Ramzinho suggestion as it's the best (you should try out some mice for yourself, see which one fits your hand and your grip better, only you can do that).

But as you asked for a rundown of mice, here's my experience:

A4Tech AK47

PROS

• Really cheap
  
• Solid
  
• ambidextrous
  
• Can select out of a few DPI settings
  
  CONS
  
  
• No additional buttons (thumb or otherwise) except for the DPI switch.
  
• Kinda flat
  
• Ugly design
  
  My first "gaming" mouse, I had no money left after building my computer so I went for this one. It's good for a starting mouse, but low end and the missing thumb buttons are a big turn off.
  
  Logitech G700
  
  PROS
  
  
• Logitech freeroll mousewheel
  
• A LOT OF BUTTONS
  
• Polling Rate and DPI settings
  
  CONS
  
  
• Heavy
  
• The charging cable is super hard to move and you are required to use it at times since the mouse battery is insanely ridicule. I mean it lasts only a few hours on a full charge...
  
• Battery is shit
  
• Mousewheel quality is shit. Broke 2 mice in a month.
  
• Kinda weird grip on the mouse, not really comfortable.
  
• Logitech gaming software
  
• Only for right handed people
  
  This mouse is huge, has a lot of features, a lot of buttons, and a lot of flaws. Not recommanded for fast paced gaming because of the short battery duration or heavy ass charging cable.
  
  Razer DeathAdder
  
  PROS
  
  
• Not really expensive in the US (really expensive everywhere else tho)
  
• Best form factor for a lot of people (subjective)
  
• Nice and big thumb buttons
  
• Nice and satisfactory click when pressing buttons
  
• Available for both right and left handed persons
  
• DPI and polling rate settings
  
• Really low activation point (<3mm) so you won't make huge weird movements if you're one of those that lift their mouse a lot.
  
• Can save profiles
  
  CONS
  
  
• Razer Quality (broke 3 over a total timespan of 2 years)
  
• Razer Gaming Software
  
  One of the best mice I used overall, I'll still be using one if they weren't so cheaply made and broke so much.
  
  Steelseries Sensei Raw Rubber
  
  PROS
  
  
• Ambidextrous
  
• Good form factor if you have big hands
  
• DPI and polling rate settings
  
• Low activation point
  
  CONS
  
  
• Issues with the mousewheel
  
  A good mouse overall, but kinda bland compared to others, as in not really providing good value for the money. Also has mousewheel issues, which is what made me switch to something else. The issue appeared after a good 7 or 8 months, but was really fucking with me after a while. Basically it would go randomly up when you scrolled down, and vice versa.
  
  Zowie FK2
  
  PROS
  
  
• NO DRIVER!!!
  
• Ambidextrous
  
• DPI and polling rate settings (you can't precisely set your DPI, but you have 4 settings to switch from a button)
  
• Really precise
  
• Really low activation point (almost on par with razer's deathadder on a razer goliathus mat)
  
• Really solid build
  
• discreet mouse if you're not into the usual gaming gear design
  
  CONS
  
  
• Not braided cable (my cat chewed the cable off of my first FK2 :()
  
• kinda expensive for the amount of goodies it carries
  
• The DPI button is located below the mouse, so it's not practical if you like to switch on the fly during gameplay.
  
  The mouse I'm currently using. It comes close second to Razer in terms of how comfortable it is for me. It's light years ahead in terms of quality. As you probably remarked, I'm not really taking care of my mice (thanks CS), but this one is indestructible. No driver bullshit, but that means no precise DPI settings (you've got 4: 400, 800, 1600 and 3200), and no profiles but that really isn't an issue. Large Teflon pads, it glides really nicely on my goliathus control mat, almost as well as the deathadder. Dunno what else to say, apart that I'm currently happy with it even though I long for the day someone makes a solid deathadder. I'm even using the one my cat chewed the cable off of at work, with a bit of tape it's working fine as long as I don't move the cable too much.
  
  edit: who puts an "s" at the end of mice?

I personally use a razer deathadder chroma but IMO its personal preference (razer fanboy). My good friend uses this mouse and thinks its really good. this is one of the best and lightest mouse on the market. Sadly its almost always sold out so going for that mouse could take a few months. Hope this helped.

Games: CSGO, Overwatch (Primarily Overwatch)

Hand Preference: Right

Budget:: $30-45 CAD

Hand Size: Big, IDK i'll come back to this when I get home

Grip: Palm

Weignt: No preference

Sensitivity: Low in games, high otherwise

Additional details: I'd like for it to have some extra buttons on the sides, and either a DPI changing button, or an easy to use software to change my DPI

Currently looking at the Razer Deathadder Chroma (On sale) and the Steelseries Rival 100 (Also on sale, but it's been at this price for ages) I have a friend willing to sell me a Rival 300 for $50 CAD, but idk if that's worth it. Currently using this piece of shit. I don't have a mousepad and I am looking to buy one so if you can find a good mouse for under my budget let me know please. Thanks in advance.

My favorite mouse if you want the type of mouse that has a lot of buttons:

https://www.amazon.com/UtechSmart-Venus-16400-Precision-Gaming/dp/B00FNKMVUO

I've been using this mouse for awhile now and haven't had double clicking issues like I did with Razr / Logitech mouse. Plus it's a bargain!

Otherwise, I use this while I game on the bed if I don't use a controller:

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-LIGHTSPEED-POWERPLAY-Wireless-Compatibility/dp/B0716ZFWWV/

Despite my stab at Logitech earlier, this mouse is by far the most responsive wireless mouse I've used. Not only that, it can be used on almost any surface since sometimes I use it on a pillow / bed sheet while lounging around in bed and playing games on the TV via steam link.

As for keyboards, for wired I use:

I forgot what brand my wired keyboard is since I'm not home at the moment.

For wireless on the bed, I use:

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G613-Lightspeed-Mechanical-Multihost-Connectivity/dp/B07796MBJ7/

Like above, the Lightspeed tech makes it super responsive even at more than 10ft away. Not only that, you can switch between Bluetooth / Lightspeed allowing you to control up to two different machines at a flip of the switch.

Here's my suggestion:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type|Item|Price

----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor | $144.98 @ DirectCanada
Motherboard | ASRock H110M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard | $39.98 @ NCIX
Memory | Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory | $44.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage | Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive | $61.94 @ Vuugo
Video Card | Sapphire Radeon RX 470 4GB NITRO+ Video Card | $284.99 @ Newegg Canada
Case | Rosewill FBM-02 MicroATX Mini Tower Case | $29.99 @ Newegg Canada
Power Supply | EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $55.37 @ DirectCanada
Monitor | Acer G226HQLBbd 21.5" 60Hz Monitor | $109.99 @ NCIX
Keyboard | Logitech K120 Wired Standard Keyboard | $12.98 @ NCIX
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $810.21
| Mail-in rebates | -$25.00
| Total | $785.21
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-15 13:32 EDT-0400 |

I never realized how weak the Canadian dollar is, I was really surprised at how much less it gets you. This is based on the "Crusher" build from the /r/pcmasterrace wiki, plus a keyboard and monitor. I don't have any direct experience with any of these parts besides the monitor, which I got for my girlfriend's computer build (and it's a great monitor at that price)

If you're looking to spend more, the first places to do it are

1. Better motherboard
2. Better keyboard
3. Better processor

Now for other recommendations. I stream on twitch as well, (mostly World of Tanks and other games), and I mostly use a Logitech G430 as my headphones/mic. If you're looking for a new mouse, Redragon makes really great mice at really good prices, I use a Redragon Perdition as my primary mouse for gaming, a Redragon Nemeanlion at work, and a Redragon Centrophorus for my secondary computer (used as a server and for doing distributed computing). For a webcam, I use a Logitech C920

This kept getting deleted:

I have 4 reliable ones in mind atm, but I'm really not sure which would best suit me.

Logitech G-Pro

Logitech G-403
 

 

Zowie FK1 or FK2

If any mice guru can help me out, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!!

I had a TeckNet Raptor. The buttons felt cheap and miss-clicked a lot with my grip. Also didn't like the metal feel of the mouse. I also had a Gigabyte GM-M6800 (http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-High-Definition-Optical-Tracking-GM-M6800/dp/B0083EZE4M/). If you just want a normal mouse for everyday use it's good +its ergonomic. The only problem are the side rubbers that may fall off.
You also got the cougar 200m which i think it has much better build quality and you should also consider. (http://www.amazon.com/Cougar-MOC200B-Adjustable-Gaming-Switch/dp/B00ORGM63C)

If you want you can save 30$ and get a much better mouse but it's up to you. If you want to keep it cheap and have the 2 side buttons the cougar is a great choice. I wouldn't buy any of these you linked since there are better choices for the same price and from brands with better build quality.

The side buttons are binded for page forward/backward by default but you can change that with a program named x-mouse.

Depends on what you need in a mouse.

If you're looking for a regular gaming mouse with decent DPI, you can go super cheap and get decent DPI compaired to a regular mouse, but not any super build quality. You can Go a small step up with a budget name brand mouse, which will have slightly better build quality. Then you can jump up to a Decent gaming mouse which has high DPI and good build quality, or this one as an alternative.

If you are an MMO gamer and want side buttons, there aren't many budget options, but the Razer Nagga MMOG 2014 Or the Logitech G600.

I have peronsally used all levels of gaming mice, and still use a super cheap wireless gaming mouse with my laptop, and I use an original Razer Naga MMOG on my desktop. I like them both, though I don't expect my cheap wireless one to last long, it still performs extremely well for the price.

Keep in mind these are just suggestions, Other people might like/disklike these mice for there own personal reasons. I peronally like the ergonomics of the Razer mice over any other.

A good keyboard can help avoid key ghosting/blocking. I have a Microsoft Sidewinder x4 and I love it. It's not mechanical, which some people love, but it's also not as expensive. I got mine for around $45 a couple years ago, but it looks like supply might be dwindling as it's now up to $75.

As far as a mouse goes I haven't find a need for anything super fancy. Unless you're playing FPS's competitively most mice will do. I find having at least two thumb buttons essential, but not much other than that. I have this $10 mouse and, so far, it works as well as any mid range mouse I've tried before.

Edit: I split my time between MMOs, RTSs, FPSs, RPGs, and action games, so my hardware needs cover most gaming uses.

Games: League of Legends, Not FPS games

Hand Preference: Right or Ambi

Budget: Thinking the most expensive I would go is a deathadder

Hand Size: 18

Grip: Palm

Weight: No Preference

Sensitivity: High

Additional Details: Kinda narrowed it down to the nixeus revel or a deathadder just based on a little research and I would like to know what you guys think.

https://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-Revel-Gaming-Mouse-Windows/dp/B01HHGHCH8

I am leaning towards the deathadder just due the popularity of it, so it's obviously tried and true. I would like to know what you guys think in respect to is it worth the cost. I also don't know what the difference is between these two deathadders, if someone could clarify that would be great. Are there different types like non chroma and chroma?

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Elite-Multi-Color-Comfortable/dp/B01LXC1QL0/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1501878159&sr=1-4&keywords=razer+deathadder

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Chroma-Multi-Color-Comfortable/dp/B00MYTSDU4/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1501878159&sr=1-3&keywords=razer+deathadder

I've seen G502s for $50 before, so I can say it does go on sale. Maybe less often than the others, but the G303 has the same sensor as the G502 and is often around that price range you mentioned, and has the same functionality (two side buttons etc).

Do note that the G502 has a lot of extra functions, like the free scroll wheel etc. Those are excessively useful in non-gaming scenarios. That being said, here it is for $60 USD at Best Buy: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/logitech-g502-proteus-spectrum-optical-gaming-mouse-black/4803300.p?skuId=4803300

I use a Red Dragon Perdition Gaming mouse. It has 5 programmable profiles which I have configured for different programs (Inventor, Rhino, Solidworks, Illustrator, CorelDraw). I have the 12 button programmed to switch profiles and each profile can have a different color from the internal LEDs (Helps tell which profile I'm in)

I also have a Logitech G13 Gamepad. It has awesome software which automatically switches profiles based on which program is active. It has 3 quick swap buttons to completely change the layouts in each program, 25 keys per layout. I've programmed keys/macros for all my commonly used tools.

I still have a regular keyboard. Ctrl+Z/Ctrl+Shit+Z (Undo/Redo) is too natural to me, plus other basic commands but I can quickly jump over to the G13 for commands that would require 2 hands on the keyboard and keep my right hand on the mouse.

I have a Waccom Bamboo pen tablet and I've found that touch is in as accurate as a mouse for 3D manipulation. With LClick+Drag, RClick+Drag, MiddleMouseButton+Drag, LRClick+Drag & Scroll Wheel and control all your major 3D view manipulations. A touch pad requires a second hand button press to achieve the same results. Believe me I've tried and mouse + keyboard + gamepad beats the socks off of anything I've found. It's great never having to click drop down menus.

Add in AutoHotKey to run macros/automate and you can model/draft w/o ever looking from the screen.

I'd be interested to hear other people's setups.

You might check out the G303...https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Daedalus-Performance-Gaming-910-004380/dp/B00TKFD51M/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1465548442&sr=1-1&keywords=Logitech+G303



If you're looking for something that's 20 bucks you can find the g100s easily on amazon for 20 dollars or less what we recommend is buying them on amazon then returning them(a few days is usually enough time to figure out if long term usage will give you cramps) and trying another mouse if you're in the United States, Best Buy sometimes has a selection of gaming mice that you can put your hand around.


https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G100s-Optical-Gaming-package/dp/B00SH30V6A?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0


Sadly, we can't match your usage exactly, reviews and advice are approximations of what /r/mousereview does. You'll have to do some experimentation and figure out what gripstyle you use and how big your hands are.


/u/rocketjumpninja might be able to help you out in the OEM mice department better than any of us.

That's a sweetspot pricepoint for LOTS of great mice. All have the latest and greatest sensors, just pick one you think would fit your hand and grip best (in no particular order):

• Razer Deathadder Chroma - $60
  
  
• Steelseries Rival - $55
  
  
• Corsair M45 - $55
  
  
• ROCCAT KONE Pure Military - $50
  
  
• Zowie FK1 - $60
  
  
• Zowie EC1-A - $60
  
  If you're willing to go a bit higher, look at these as well:
  
  
• Logitech G502 - $70
  
  
• Mionix Naos 7000 - $65
  
  

Eyo,
honestly, as someone who played lots of dota, I'm gonna say that all the buttons are not necessary, and from my experience are rather uncomfortable to press.

So I'm just gonna recommend what I always recommend (and use).

And that is the Steelseries rival 300 mouse, super comfortable if you have big hands and palm grip, flawless tracking, 3 additional buttons, love it to death.

And the Kingston Hyperx Mousepad, much thicker then the qck and very smooth, and rather big for the price.

I'd recommend the Zowie EC1-A or EC2-A and the FK2.

The EC1-A is closer to the weight of the Sensei at 97 grams, while the EC2-A is closer to the shape of the Sensei.

If you don't mind going lighter than 97 grams, the Zowie FK2 is even closer to the shape of the Sensei but significantly lighter at 90 grams.

I've reviewed all Zowie FK mice, including the FK2, if you're interested, but you'll find plenty of useful info about the EC1/EC2-A on Amazon reviews.

Let me know if that helps. (:

It's more about what's best for you, what style of mouse you like, how large your hand is, do you want wired/wireless, etc. I love my Logitech G Pro and it's right on the edge of your $50 budget. The G203 has a similar shape for less than half the price, but it doesn't have a braided cable and the DPI doesn't go as high. I liked the braided cable for my mouse bungee (it keeps it nice and snug) plus it looks so nice (and now I can easily identify the mouse in the back of the PC when I go to move it to my server.)

What kind of game(s) does he play? FPS, MMOs, MOBAs, etc? Just give names I guess? I am going to post a link to a keyboard and a mouse I purchased this year for not too much and they work great and I use my pc a good 8 hours a day.

Mouse

Keyboard

Both of these work great and together they cost 100 before taxes on Amazon. I recommend them for any type of PC gaming, no joke.

Here are my recommendations:

G303

G502

EC2-A

DeathAdder Chroma

They're all great mice with the best sensors out there, so you should make your choice based on shape and price. Especially the G303, great mouse but the shape takes getting used to. Best of luck

Here's a good place to get started for tip grip and claw grip mice.
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/69165-best-fingertip-grip-mice/

The death adder by razer is arguably one of the best gaming mice you can buy, you can use palm grip, tip grip, and claw grip with it and its hands down one of my favorite mice.

http://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Chroma-Multi-Color-Ergonomic/dp/B00MYTSDU4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427602659&sr=8-1&keywords=death+adder


check this review on mechanical keyboards. most cost 100+ which is why i recommend you read this.
http://www.wired.com/2014/11/hilow-mechanical-keyboards/

I own a das keyboard, the ultimate (with no letters written on the keys, its a blank keyboard and it looks amazing)

That being said this a very good cheap mechanical keyboard
http://www.amazon.com/Storm-QuickFire-Rapid-Tenkeyless-Mechanical/dp/B0068INSUM

With the CM storm quickfire and the death adder you'll be at around 120. I realize this is slightly over your budget but it's gonna be well worth it. Trust me. Good luck

oh they work alright! they really honestly arnt for everyone it causes anger issues trying to learn to control it properly i usually cut it down depending on the game via software or just a button on the mouse. i perfer around 12k tho honestly this mouse isnt even expensive and i prefer it over the chroma razer naga. this is the link if you are interested the mouse has removable weights as well so you can find a good balance between weight and dpi you can make your self very comfortable with very little movement. and with the software for each dpi setting (there are 5) you can create profiles for different types of games with various speeds and polling rates with one tap of a button on the mouse its honestly a very good product.

You definitely don't want the Razer. Especially after you read the reviews. You should also consider the Logitech G602.

The 602 is more comfortable for me as I can't stand the ring finger rest on MMO mice. The 602 can also use 1 or 2 AA batteries for weight purposes which lasts for months. Further, the 602 has several extra buttons up top, one of which can be used as a shift button to turn those 6 side buttons into 12.

The 600 has a shift button on the ring finger rest which can turn the 12 side buttons into 24 if you need that many. Also, alot of people have said that the mouse wheel fails too soon in the 600. There are better alternatives:

The top-rated UtechSmart Venus: https://www.amazon.com/Gaming-Mouse-UtechSmart-Venus-Precision/dp/B00FNKMVUO

The Redragon Perdition: https://www.amazon.com/Perdition-Redragon-High-Precision-Computer-Programmable/dp/B00GU8W5AE

The Havit MMO mouse: https://www.amazon.com/HV-MS735-12000DPI-Programmable-Optical-PMW3360/dp/B01DW2VQ5A

Those are some more options besides the G600. Redragon has excellent reviews. All the mice I've listed above have excellent reviews. All you have to do is choose. :)

Definitely not enough buttons for me on those.

Try a 18-button gaming mouse like this: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16826816068
Or this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FNKMVUO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_CrL4AbDW3358E

If anyone knows of something with more buttons hmu.

It's so great to have modifiers on your thumb. Shift click drag, and then alt click ripple edits all day.


Thumb buttons:

Alt

• Zoom in
  
  

• zoom out
  
  Shift
  
  J rewind
  
  L forward
  
  Enter render
  
  Shift-E (en/disable)
  
  Ctrl Z undo
  
  V (pointer)
  
  C (razor)
  
  A (track selection)
  
  My wheel button is set to spacebar, my dpi up arrow is Ctrl (use for paste with c and v thumb buttons), my dpi down arrow is save.
  
  I also use a Logitech g-13 on left hand with thumbstick mouse and mostly the same macros plus buttons for delete/paste/copy/cut/up/down/save/render/j/k/l/i/o/c/v/a/x/marker/space/
  
  And then some more advanced macros such as one button for (razor here, select forward, cut selection, select gap, delete gap), another the same except (razor select backward, cut, select/delete gap), and then I use (ctrl-shift-v paste insert) on the timeline above.
  
  Macros are awesome. Just don't get lost in button wonderland. Or do. Actually, do. It's so worth it. Wonderland is awesome.

This is my absolute favorite I've ever had.

Nice and cheap, numeric buttons on the side are a must for me so this pleased me immensely, and of course the packaged software for RGB control and sensitivity control is great, as well as the sensitivity changing buttons near the scroll wheel. And if that's not enough, you can open it up and add (or remove) some of the packaged in weights if you like your mouse a little heavier or lighter. Piece of beauty, this one is.

I know I'm late to the thread and this type of mouse isn't specifically related to your question but I wanted to post my mouse because I have made good use of it with CAD and gaming:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/516sbjhsHdL._SL1000_.jpg

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Programmable-Precision-Buttons-Windows/dp/B00GU8W5AE/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=perdition+red+dragon+mouse&qid=1559089700&s=gateway&sr=8-3

12 side buttons is kinda overkill but I just wanted to recommend a mouse that has custom keys because it is super useful.

https://imgur.com/a/XyqJz

The MMO Mouse (twelve on the side) has:

• Middle = F1
  
• Special = double-click
  
  

1. F2
   
2. F3
   
3. F4
   
4. CTRL+T (Call Target)
   
5. Swap layout (I have five profiles)
   
6. W (Take a target)
   
7. 7 (About face)
   
8. 8 (Stow/Draw Weapon)
   
9. 9 (F5)
   
10. Mouse 4 (Heal)
    
11. T (Interact)
    
12. Mouse 5 (Elite)
    
    
    All the F buttons are hit with the tip of my thumbnail, which makes it easy to play Elementalist and Engineer. It also makes it easy to hit the Chronomancer Continuum Split button and then drag my thumb along the line of F skills to burst people with condi's in WvW :3
    
    When I get the mounts going, I will make them CTRL+F1-F4 because I can hold CTRL easily whilst moving since it is right at the corner of my hand.
    
    I use https://www.amazon.com/Gaming-Mouse-UtechSmart-Venus-Precision/dp/B00FNKMVUO for reference. It mostly fits me... lower half of my thumb can hit 7-12 and upper half for the others. The buttons are all wide enough that I do not double-hit them.
    
    
    P.S. Yes, I made my own keyboard layout so movement keys look funny. That side of the keyboard is laid out with:
    ;vflwc
    kontsh
    zbrdgi

A few years ago I upgraded to the Logitech G710+ Mechanical Gaming Keyboard with Tactile High-Speed Keys and the SteelSeries Sensei Laser Gaming Mouse in hopes of getting better. Played a bunch of Battlefield 4 on it, was ok. But when I got BF4 on sale for the Xbox later... man it was seriously night and day how much better I was with a controller.

Funny thing is, I'm really good at World of Warcraft PvP with his keyboard mouse set up. But when you think about it, you have sticky target. You don't aim, all you have to do is move around. That helped me figure out what I can't get down in FPS, the combination of moving AND aiming!

I'm a straight up weirdo! Haha.

Looking For: Claw Grip, at least 4000 DPI, 5+ buttons (preferably right thumb)

Budget: $50

Handedness: Right

Currently Using: Logitech M705 (perfect shape and buttons but not a gaming mouse, way low DPI and polling rate)

Tried: Redragon Mammoth

Details:

I got this awesome Redragon Mammoth for Christmas. For 30 bucks, it's a steal with plenty of buttons and as much as 16400 DPI.

I've never had a gaming mouse before but find 4000 DPI both intuitive and comfortable to use. I could probably move it higher as I acclimate so I'd like to be able to go higher but at this point not a necessity.

The only issue is I use a Claw grip and this is clearly designed for Palm. Over long play sessions it causes my thumb to feel pain/strain since I need to bend it unnaturally to reach the side buttons.

I have to return it, it's causing me physical pain, but I don't know what to replace it with.

EDIT: Some more detail. The M705 has three side buttons (one is actuated by squeezing near the base) and the scroll wheel support left/right tilt. I find the three thumb buttons and the tilt to be quite perfect.

TLDR: I want an M705 with 4000+ DPI and 1000 MHz polling rate.

EDIT2: Based on how active this sub is, I think I just waited too long to post in this thread. Making this it's own thread =)

I have this mouse but switched it for a slightly bigger one. Good mouse for wireless operation but logitech released new mices with their new hero sensor (Probably the Pixart 3389 ). I would go for those or wait until they update this mouse (battery not to great) or it actually goes on sale. More Mice competing with this one:Logitech G403 Pixart PMW 3366 $39.99..
$50 Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless "Hero" 12,000 dpi Sensor probably pmw3366..


HyperX Pulsefire FPS Pro with very good Pixart 3389 Sensor Up to 16, 000Dpi $45


SteelSeries Rival 310 Gaming Mouse - 12,000 CPI TrueMove3 Optical Sensor $43.60...
James Donkey 325RS Gaming Mouse 7200DPI Pixart PMW3330 $20..
Redragon M901 PixArt PMW3360 ...

Amazon Basics gaming mouse 12000 dpi $40

Logitech is the best option for mice. I currently use a Logitech G303 but they aren't sold anymore. What is your budget? Left or right handed?

EDIT: I did a quick search on PC Part Picker: Mice and found the best mouse for the price. Check out this Logitech - G300S Wired Optical Mouse. It's currently on sale for only $24.90 on Amazon and normally sells for $40. I already have two extra mice still in their packages but might have to buy this one now too, as it's a great deal.

An overlooked part of the equation is a mouse pad. The joke about tryhards buying giant mousepads is not unfounded. Lower sensitivity is a good idea in most games and with a small mouse pad you'll find yourself running out of room too often. Buy a giant Steel Series QCK mousepad IMO.

Other than that buy something with the tried and true MX switches. Razer has gone to their own proprietary switch and there's nothing to suggest they're better and everything to suggest it was a cost cutting measure. Reds or browns are going to be best for FPS games IMO. Tenkeyless will allow you to better accommodate the giant mouse pad and not have your left arm/hand in an uncomfortable spot.

Mice are much more subjective. Figure out how you grip the mouse (palm/claw/fingertip) and start looking based off that. Laser vs. optical is a contested topic and in general you probably won't find a huge difference. The Logitech G Pro (https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Gaming-Advanced-Sensor-Competitive/dp/B01JPOLLTK) is generally regarded as having a top tier sensor and is reasonably priced. That's what I would buy if I had to buy a new mouse today.

I actually have an old nostromo but am looking for something better. I found one item, it looked kind of interesting, but I'm not completely sold on it:

https://www.amazon.com/ACGAM-Bluetooth-Wireless-Controller-Cardboard/dp/B01NACKLKO/ref=pd_sbs_200_5/146-0088854-6916708?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01NACKLKO&pd_rd_r=8d334068-35cc-4a64-91d7-2864f21b769c&pd_rd_w=05Tuf&pd_rd_wg=v4SVO&pf_rd_p=52b7592c-2dc9-4ac6-84d4-4bda6360045e&pf_rd_r=15AGY3M3B1TNYYHXSWQ4&psc=1&refRID=15AGY3M3B1TNYYHXSWQ4

I've found other stuff, but they're super expensive. This is one of the cheaper models I've found:

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-Tartarus-Progammable-Detachable-Mecha-Membrane/dp/B07754PYFK/ref=sr_1_14?keywords=one+handed+pc+controller&qid=1572711565&sr=8-14

But I've since started searching for a gaming mouse. I found this one. Any idea if it's a good model:

https://www.amazon.com/UtechSmart-Precision-Programmable-Computer-Recommendation/dp/B00FNKMVUO/ref=pd_bxgy_147_2/146-0088854-6916708?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00FNKMVUO&pd_rd_r=c069735c-a5fc-4d03-8667-ba13661de586&pd_rd_w=q0TPW&pd_rd_wg=2W5Cs&pf_rd_p=09627863-9889-4290-b90a-5e9f86682449&pf_rd_r=RBX90DJXXBHR6VVNYJHP&psc=1&refRID=RBX90DJXXBHR6VVNYJHP

A MMO mouse will completely change the game for you. Back before my wife and I were married I would visit her on the weekends, and one weekend I left my naga over there and didn't play WoW for the whole week. You just get so accustomed to it.
Nagas are normally really expensive, but there are really good alternatives. This mouse is around 30 bucks on Amazon and has 5 stars.

http://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Perdition-Precision-Programmable-Cartridge-profiles/dp/B00GU8W5AE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413909043&sr=8-1&keywords=MMO+Mouse

I need to get me a gaming keyboard, I have never had one before so idk how well those would benefit me. I'm just using an old PS2 keyboard now.

edit- Been here almost 4 years and just got my first gold. Thank you so much! I love this community :)

I have the same issue with hand and arm pain. Few weeks ago I got this mouse https://www.amazon.com/UtechSmart-Precision-Programmable-Computer-Recommendation/dp/B00FNKMVUO?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_2 and it is awesome. Really great build quality and price. I snagged it for $25 on sale. My friend also has it and loves it.

Have a look at the RedDragonite M 901 Perdition. It's inexpensive and I'm completely satisfied with mine. Tons of buttons with good placement, the wave pattern on the num pad makes locating where your thumb is easy to do, up to 16400 DPI, and it has seven weights you can use to adjust the heft. Very well built and the scroll wheel is rubberized, large, and sturdy.

Good software too, profile switching, every button is programmable, and it does macros.

I used to have a Razer Naga Molten Edition mouse similar to this and I like this one a lot more. I really love this mouse for games. I've had it for about 4 years now and it hasn't given me any problems.

Still using a cheap Gear Head wireless keyboard, and it's decent enough for now. I'd like to replace it with a good mechanical eventually, but I'd rather buy games than save for it apparently. The mouse that came with the keyboard was absolute dogshit, so I replaced it with a Perixx-MX-2000B. I also got a nice rigid mouse pad for it too. The response is amazing. And to think that I used to have a dirty peasant problem using controllers all the time to game. That mouse helped me correct this issue.

My little brother has a Redragon Mammoth and he loves it. A bit short for me but it has a nice weight to it. Redragon has another one called the Perdition that's pretty highly rated as well.

Anker has some good offerings in your price range as well

Get a gaming mouse with at least 3 easy to use buttons for the thumb. It makes your life 500x easier for kit swapping. I personally use the Redragon M801 Mammoth, but something like the Logitech G602 would also work rather well.

Also take the time to learn every skill in those kits and how they can be used. Condi engineer is very powerful in open world and fractals if you can play it right.

I recently got a new mouse for £24. When I was looking at what to get, I decided to put my hatred for Razer aside for a moment. The DeathAdder seemed like the best for me, and I noted down its price of ~£40. It was only later that I found the Perixx mouse. The customisation in the software is very impressive, and the settings are saved to the actual mouse rather than the computer. You can uninstall the mouse's software even, if you like. I feel like I've gotten something worth three times more than the Razer mouse, and it was only 60% of the cost.

My friend has one of their headsets, and although it is alright (low volume, iffy sound, great mic) it cost him £60. I'm sure even the £24 Plantronics headsets on Amazon are as good.

As for the keyboards, you'll be lectured dare you show one on /r/MechanicalKeyboards. They use knock-off switches which they (naturally) claim are better, but I'll take Cherry's switches over their's any day.

G402 is currently on sale for £28.99

Havent used the personally 402 but the 502 served me for a few years and its a decent mouse and the 402 is almost exactly the same but it doesnt have a free scrolling mouse wheel.

Ajazz 75% mechanical keyboard for £23.99

I have an ajazz ak33 and have been using it for the last 3(?) years its very reliable and the knock off blue switches that it uses are as good as those on my old corsair keyboard.

Check out rocketjumpninja for mouse reviews though as you might want a smaller mouse (like the g203 which is similarly priced) that suites your hand size

also check out r/buildapcsales for current sales on PC hardware people will link peripherals as well and you might snag a nice deal.

Here it is. I play a lot of DAoC and WoW at times as well as Dota 2 so the side buttons are handy. The mouse is pretty hefty so it feels amazing in my hands which is what sold me on it.

I have the G502 and just bought this one for my partners build and well I stole it and gave him my g502. He does not game so it really does matter and usually gets my hand me downs. The g502 is nice with little amount of buttons getting in the way.

http://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Mammoth-Programmable-PC-Profiles-Switches/dp/B00GU4F4OM

I play MMOs and it do not want a ton of buttons as I am old school and use my keyboard too, it works actually better for me.

A plus is then you can get you a nice maousepad if you need which is also a must.

This is something you can only learn through practice. I've played TONS of multiplayer shooters over the years and while I used to be terrible, im now merely adequate. KDR of 0.8-0.9 on average. So average player, slightly below average.

We're never gonna be GOOD at this stuff. We don't have the reflexes for it. And multiplayer shooters can be VERY competitive. Depending on the game, we'll always suck. I still suck at both extremely tactical shooters (tend to rush into stuff, no survival sense, also not good at that twitch shooting BS), and fast paced arena shooters (simply lack the coordination).

Middle of the road style shooters tend to be best, although those are the ones you mentioned. BF, COD, overwatch, those are good shooters to keep playing. They're not particularly hard. They're pretty forgiving overall.

Beyond that, one thing I'll suggest since you're on PC is to GET A GOOD MOUSE.

Most office mice arent great at gaming. They're 400 DPI, they're inaccurate as heck. They lack the sensitivity necessary for aiming properly. If you're using wireless, that's a double whammy due to input lag. DONT. If you have a decent amount of money, consider investing in a logitech G400/500 series mouse or equivalent mouse in your brand of choice. Those are the ones with the best sensors for FPS games. They're highly customizable and greatly improve gameplay.

If those are too expensive, since those run around $40-60, consider something like this.

https://www.amazon.com/blue-Junior-1600dpi-Gaming-EMS109L/dp/B0095P5K8I

I've used this brand before. On the pro side, it has a decent sensor. On the bad side its build quality is crap and it has a high chance of breaking within a few months. That said you get what you pay for and I recommend $40-60 mice for a reason. It's better to have an expensive mouse that lasts 2-3+ years than a cheap one that lasts 3 months. That's my philosophy at least.

While it doesn't have much in the way of a pinky rest, I am surprisingly happy with my UtechSmart Venus ($37.99 Amazon). I thought it'd be a cheap chinese knockoff, but it has so far been every bit as good as my Razer Naga was. (My second Naga in two years began suffering from an oxidized switch like the first one. I decided I didn't want to spend $90 a year on a gaming mouse so looked for a cheaper alternative).

If you're in the market for a budget gaming mouse with a 12-button thumb grid, long braided USB cable, configurable LEDs, and removable weights, I can't recommend the Venus enough. I've also used the Redragon Mammoth and Perdition and they were surprisingly good for the price.

A quick glance on Amazon for gaming mice that have a pinky rest yielded this one for only $11.99. I can't vouch for its quality, but at that price I'd imagine it's worth risking just to see what it's like.

The Logitech G Pro Wired is, well, wired. It is based off the same design as the G305, which is the wireless version.

The Logitech G Pro also comes with the latest HERO sensor of 16k DPI. This model is called theLogitech G Pro HERO.

The Logitech G Pro Wireless is a special esports gaming mouse that is wireless and uses the same HERO sensor. However, it has a completely different shape.

TL;DR: It is wired.

I bought a Naga and I hated it. It felt so cheap in my hand and the buttons felt "squishy". It was also a bit on the small side for my hand. So, I gave it to a friend and he loves it, so to each his own!
I ended up biting the bullet and went with a mouse that I've never heard of before, the Venus by a newish(?) company called "UtechSmart". In my opinion, it's miles above the Naga. It feels so much better in my hand, the build quality is superb, and there's no issues after a couple years of use.

If you don't want to go with a mouse that isn't a huge name brand like Razer, then I hear Corsair's mice are incredible too. I use their keyboards and I love them, but I haven't used one of their mice yet. Hopefully this can help to some degree.

UtechSmart Venus Gaming Mouse RGB Wired, 16400 DPI High Precision Laser Programmable MMO Computer Gaming Mice [IGN's Recommendation] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FNKMVUO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_w7BFDbES3T9M8

I use this one and love it, 12 side buttons that you can assign keys to, you can change the color to any color, and you can set 5 different dpi however you like (you can make each setting any number eg #1 can be 300 #2 can be 16400 if you want) also super comfortable and not too jittery

Dude, my friend plays the shit out of Paragon and he'd love this. Entering.

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• Monitor: Asus VX248H 24" 1ms 60Hz
  
  
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I love this mouse.. It takes some time to program, and a PC I believe. But I have every button linked to a hot key so I can zoom in and out, make an edit, add a transition, jump to the next clip, delete, move up or down a track, copy, paste, in, out and many more useful hot keys all in one hand. It's probably doubled my editing speed and I memorized all the buttons in about 2 days. Not a bad price either. Another popular mouse is the Razer Naga Chroma I think you can use a Mac to program that one.

Finding a mouse at that price point with a flawless sensor is kind of tricky. The EVGA x3 or x5 is very competitively priced at this moment, but it is a little smaller and more shaped like an abyssus. The Havit 1200 has a "flawless" sensor, but I have not used this exact model so I can't speak of the sensor implementation and build quality, and the same can be said of the Talentech Shadow2 & GranVela M639. But, in all honesty those are chinese OEM mice so they might not be worthwhile. My vote is the Evga x3 or the x5, the size isn't that bad just be sure to not accidentally purchase the L (laser) options.


So to answer your question, I don't see any decent mice with that exact shape for that price. Ergonomics, "Flawless" Sensor, Under $30; choose two.


That being said I've seen the deathadder on sale for a little over $30 recently. Even a newegg retailer has one currently listed at $40, Amazon has one for $45, and I've seen them on sale at my local walmart & local Target for around $35.

Not sure about games per se, but I have this mouse that could help with the 1 hand thing: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FNKMVUO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_iOyDCb59X0968

I have this mouse at home and wouldn’t trade it for anything. You can program every button to do basically whatever you’d like. You could play an FPS with it if you really wanted to by mapping the side buttons to WASD.

I have somewhat large hands, but I have been very happy with my Redragon Mammoth.

Adjustable DPI is nice. I don't move my wrist either, and it's easy to grip.

http://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Precision-Programmable-programmable-Cartridge/dp/B00GU4F4OM

My favorite mouse of all time. Not for the dpi (I only go up to 1200), but for the superb feel in hand. I don't have any complaints with this mouse at all.

I've had the original naga for years and I love mine but wear and tear is finally getting to it after so many years. I've been thinking of buying this and having the naga for use with my laptop on the go actually. My friend got this after I showed him it and said he loves it so far.

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I don't have a ton of advice for most of the build, but I have a few thoughts.

• I would recommend the 1070 over the 980 Ti. The benefits in VR that come along with the 1000 series are probably worth the wait for Hackintosh support.
  
  
• ROCCAT seems like a bit of a strange choice for the mouse (you can get a DeathAdder Chroma for a very similar price), however I don't know a ton about gaming mice, so take this with a grain of salt.
  

My brother lent me a spare Logitech G600. It's definitely a mouse issue and not the pad.

I'm similar to you. I have big hands so my two rightmost fingers drag if I don't grip the mouse with them and I tend to pick up lighter mice. Loving the G600 except for the 12 side buttons

How come the steelseries rival 300 is $50 and higher than a corsair saber at $68? The final mouse is also only $67

The HAVIT HV-MS976GT is the #1 best seller on Amazon for $10 and the Redragon M601 is 56% off, but I'm guessing they're lacking?

What's the best big/heavy gaming mouse similar to the G600 without buttons for my buck?

$60 and i currently own 3 Roccat Kone Pure's I have owned several razors and several corsairs but keep coming back to my good ol' kone pure.

EDIT: I should mention that i finger mouse. So i like smaller/lighter mice and the Kone is perfect size.

If you're not wanting a full keypad - Logitech Proteus - $50 US

If you do like full keypads - Logitech G600 - $53 US

Logitech does pretty good with their mice. While I like the Razer Naga better in use, the G600 is more durable in my experience.

That said, there's plenty of less known brands for cheaper prices that still have decent ratings such as the UtechSmart Venus - $39 US

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I love my mmo mouse, a good cheap option from amazon is the Redragon for 35 bucks

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-M901-PERDITION-High-Precision-Programmable/dp/B00GU8W5AE

It, like the Logitech MMO mouse, have angled buttons so it's super easy to figure out your thumb position.

Have you ever thought about something like this? I bought one of these for WoW and sometimes end up playing LoL with one hand just because I can.

I have rather small hands and I absolutely love my Razer DeathAdder! It is definitely worth a look. The Razer software is great and the LED colors really pop out. http://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Chroma-Multi-Color-Ergonomic/dp/B00MYTSDU4/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1450919651&sr=1-1&keywords=razer+deathadder+chroma

I hope to spend this weekend with my partner. He only has time to see me on Saturdays and Sundays, and I miss him all the time, so I spend all week looking forward to the weekend. I love the guy like crazy. 1.21 Gigawatts crazy.

In the unlikely event that I actually win one of these contests, I'd finally like to upgrade my mouse.

Thanks for the contest.

As a fellow lefty, I highly recommend the SteelSeries Sensei. It has additional buttons on the left and right of the mouse and has a symmetrical design that appeases both types of hands. I've used mine for close to two years and have loved, and my girlfriend has owned hers for half a year and loves hers as well.

So far most of the suggestions I've read have been good. I just want to add my personal favorite, the Razer DeathAdder. Gaming Mice tend to be really great for design work due to their great precision and more control over the DPI (But don't fall into the trap that higher DPI is better.)

https://www.amazon.com/Razer-DeathAdder-Essential-Ergonomic-Comfortable/dp/B00MYTSDU4?th=1

I've got a gaming PC and I mostly use an XBOX One controller. I'm about to get a gaming laptop (really it's mostly for school and work, but I will be gaming on the go quite a bit), and I hate track pads. So I decided instead of buying some cheap-o general purpose wireless mouse, I'd buy some cheap-o gaming intended mouse. I have not yet decided if I should go wired or wireless.

I'm basically looking for cheap, pretty good, and black or black/red to match the laptop, all without looking like a baby Transformer. Looking in the <$30 range. I'll upgrade to a $50+ later if I feel like I get a lot of use out of it.

Here's what I've narrowed my options down to:

• Turtle Beach Grip 300 (or maybe the 500, idk what the difference is)
  
  
• Redragon M601
  
  
• Redragon M801
  
  
• Teckent Wired Mouse
  
  
• Logitech Wireless Mouse M510
  
  Any of these good, or do you have better suggestions?

I would also recommend to check you out the Steelseries Rival 300. Although it may look like a big mouse, it is really comfortable when you are using it, especially for palm grip users, despite the fact that I have quite small hands. You can also customize the DPI (CPI) settings up to 6500 DPI, as well as the lights. Also when you play CS:GO there is a built-in engine to the mouse, so if you have low health, the light of the mouse starts to change from green to yellow to red. Also, if you buy it from the website, it comes with a free qck mousepad too.

Razer is a scam, IMO their products just don't hold up that well for the ridiculous price tag. Everything I've bought from them is now broken, and I won't buy anything else. It's all marketing. Personally, I prefer logitec but I decided for WoW I'd try just picking up a cheapo MMO mouse, and honestly so far it's been great. I've been using it for around a year, started on PServers, and had zero issues so far:

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Programmable-Precision-Buttons-Windows/dp/B00GU8W5AE

It's that brand and has the same side button configuration but whichever one I have doesn't have all the RGB lights all over it. Less than half the price of a naga, and has a thumb shelf.

ironically one of the cheaper ones on amazon has the best reviews, so try this. I bought a keyboard from that brand it is still going strong, so I would trust the reviews. Quality looks pretty top notch too.

You and I are alike, here's my mouse: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007N6HS3G?keywords=steelseries%20sensei&qid=1453182887&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

I regret getting the rubberized black because it'll show any kind of perspiration from my hand, but I love the design. Customizable DPI in increments of 90 up to 5670, you can turn off the leds, has a dpi switch and only 4 extra customizable buttons. The software that steelseries makes for it is pretty nice too. You don't need to run it at boot and I'd avoid running it often because it's always trying to update..

I used this mouse at work for months and it was amazing, highly recommend it.

I use this mouse for home, also really nice. Both are large mice which are extremely comfortable to use.

Nice, only 30 bucks on Amazon! Just to confirm, it's this model right--

https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-Programmable-Precision-Buttons-Windows/dp/B00GU8W5AE

I should get it just to have a nice gaming mouse at the very least, I've never had one. And I got Amazon gift cards burning a hole in my e-wallet for forever.

I could get it, and then when I eventually get that yearning to make the change (I'll need to be in the mood) I'll be all ready to go.

I have the Redragon Mammoth, and I highly recommend it for people looking to spend less than $30 on a mouse. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GU4F4OM/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_gYqywbRNXFGEC

The mouse is perfect for wider hands, it has 5 different profiles you can switch between, and you can set up 5 or 6 preset DPI settings for as well as different keybindings for each profile... DPI goes up to 16,400, though I'll probably never use it that high. The mouse has a "three click macro button" on the upper left hand side of the left mouse button, and it has three thumb buttons.

I've had this mouse for almost a year now and it's easily surpassed my expectations. I'll never go back to an expensive Razer or Logitech mouse.

I find it hard to play on just keyboard and mouse due to all the buttons you need.

I really like using one of those MMORPG mouses (pretty much mouses with a numpad on the side), takes some time to get use to, but are great once you adjusted to them.

There are alot of them, but here are the link for the more popular ones (I'm using the G600 atm)

Logitech G600

Corsair Schimitar

Razer Naga Chroma

Redragon M901 Perdition

I also use a Logitech G13 Gamepad

Out of those four I would go with the M40, the only issue I can think with it is that you say you want a less silly mouse and the M40 is borderline silly. But like every thread, I ought to recommend the G502.

If you want to go way under your budget have a look at the Gigabyte M6880, it has only 2 extra buttons, but feels suprisingly nice to hold, and great for palm gripping.

Redragon mammoth 16400 dpi mouse i love it so much. The mouse wheel is super clicky too. Super cheap

Redragon M801 Mammoth 16400 DPI Programmable Laser Gaming Mouse for PC, 9 Programmable Buttons, 5 User Profiles, Weight Tuning, Omron Switches, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GU4F4OM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_MWmwxb2EEC9HR

I hope the best for you. If you need to vent let me know. Strangers can be the best listeners.

The Mouse is a SteelSeries Sensei RAW. Not the most expensive or fancy, but I love it so much.

SteelSeries Sensei Laser Gaming Mouse RAW - Rubberized Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007N6HS3G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_nQyUAb19DCTD1

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Those two are good mice that are at the top of your budget. Pro players use both.

If you want a cheaper mouse I know a guy with this one and he likes it.

I recently purchased a Deathadder Chroma and I love it. If you wanna drop another 15 dollars I recommend it.

Hey there, I'm not sure how much you're willing to spend but I've been using this mouse and it's been absolutely amazing. Two extra mouse buttons on the side make it great for mapping pings to it

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MYTSDU4/ref=twister_B01IKNREHA?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

It's the Razer DeathAdder Chroma in case anyone doesn't want to click the link.

I play lots of games, but BF3 is the only one that requires most from my mouse/ keyboard. The one you linked sounds great, but the price goes way higher than I thought it would be and I prefer how deathhader/ other mice looks. I have some razer stuff and didn't get any problem at all, they work great. Guess Ill stick with deathhader, but now my problem is there are so many lol. Is there any big difference from Chroma to Default one aside from multi color leds? If chroma works better I may get it, but probaly won't use the "chroma".

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GU4F4OM?psc=1

i'd recommend a Redragon brand mouse. Above is a link to one. There are other versions that compete with the Naga with thumb buttons etc.

The main difference is the palm texture. Most mice are smooth and plastic-y or smooth and rubbery.

Redragon mice are textured on top. Sort of like that black bumpy pads they put on stairs in warehouses to make it so they dont get slippery when wet. But fine enough so that it is still perfectly comfortable in your hands.

Benefits - doesnt get slippery or feel gross if you sweat. Also, doesn't buildup that disgusting gunk over time that needs to get scraped off.