Reddit mentions: The best leg & foot supports

Awesome post and great gains. Thanks for sharing!

You and I have almost the same exact number on all exercises except my squat is currently ~250lb 5x5. (I have been on Strong lift for a year off and on but pretty dedicated last 6 months).

My previous squat ceiling was 215 and I got a number of things that really helped outside of improving my form (holding the bar lower on my back, knees out when squatting not just forward, etc):

• Squat belt - Your spine can only support so much. This helps engage your abs and keep your spine straight. A must when doing higher weights. At $14.95 its a pretty cheap investment (though one day I'll upgrade to a real leather one with notches).
  
• Knee sleeves - These keep your knees warm and give you some support. A little pricey at $50 but definitely thick and will last forever.
  
• Squat shoes - I never thought I'd be a guy to own some of these but they help with stability a lot and they also help a little with bench and a few other exercises. Do not keep them on for Deadlifts though.
  
  The above helped me a bunch. Hope this info help at all!

Better late than never. I've been dealing with PF since May, but have continued to do high-ish mileage without my PF getting any worse. So, can't fix it for you, but some days it doesn't hurt at all.

Things I've noticed:

• Sleeping in a brace makes a big difference. I use one like this and I can definitely tell when I wear it and when I don't.
  
• I've isolated one pair of shoes that's worse for it than others. I still wear them some because I'm stubborn but probably shouldn't.
  
• I use a foam ball (but golf ball or lacrosse ball work just as well) to massage the bottoms of my feet at night. When I get lazy with this, it gets worse. When I'm consistent, it does better. Pretty solid correlative data!
  
• Foam rolling my calves and hammies seem to help too. Everything's attached, so any tightness creates more tightness other places. Also strengthening my Achilles with eccentric heel drops may or may not help, but it seems to be better. Plus, you know, bulletproof Achilles are always a good thing.
  
• Not drinking for a bit will definitely help. Alcohol inhibits your muscles' ability to heal and grow. But obviously that's totally up to you.
  
  Hope that helps!

It really depends what youre looking for.




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These are very popular, many elite lifters use them (Lu, Tian tao, Liao hui, etc) http://store.hookgrip.com/shop/blue-white-hookgrip-knee-sleeves/

Those sleeves linked above do not really provide any support, they will not aid you in performing any movements, theyre mostly for warmth and maybe proprioception in some ways.

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Then you have these http://www.amazon.com/Rehband-7mm-Knee-Sleeve-Original/dp/B0088KPT50/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450897198&sr=8-1&keywords=rehband+knee+sleeves

Rehband is also very popular among many lifters, these provide a little more support and are thicker, these still probably wont really add anything to your lifts (maybe 5 pounds if you get them a size down??).


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Then you have this tier of sleeves http://www.howmuchyabench.net/strong-sleeves

http://www.andersonpowerlifting.com/knee-sleeves-p/sbd-knee-sleeves-pair.htm



These are used more for powerlifting or for squats only(i dont think ive seen anyone perform olympic lifts with either), they are supposed to be pretty tight and offer a lot of support, they will definitely allow you to squat more (ive seen most people get 10kg+ out of them)

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The more support you want, the more you will have to pay. There are also knee wraps which generally provide more support than any sleeve can and those have a similar breakdown from less supportive to more supportive.

Well, I guess I believe that my experience and my education gives me the right to call a doctor lazy or misinformed. I think any doctor that doesn't give you treatment options is lazy. Many doctors have specialties and most of them are not kinesiology, but any doctor should be able to do some research and get back to you with treatment options. I'm been a competitive athlete in many sports my entire life, I've had my share injuries and pains. To go along with this I've had many doctors, some who are very forward thinking about physiology, kinesiology and body wellness and others who subscribe to the "take some advil and stop doing xxxxx" method. Some doctors will be very proactive about educating themselves with the latest research and journals and others will get their degree and just prescribe pills for their whole career.

So, ITBS is caused by many things, but you were not born with it, it is something people develop through their movement patterns.

There are many things that can lead to ITBS, running on sloped surfaces, high or low foot arches (can be corrected with insoles), not sufficient warmup or cool down, and a variety of muscle imbalances.

If your health insurance won't cover a PT you could educate yourself. A really good reference book would by "Becoming A Supple Leopard" by Kelly Starrett PhD. He is a doctor of physical therapy who is the owner of MobiltyWOD.com as well as a world renowned movement and mobility expert. His book is the best resource for the mechanisms of human movement that I have ever seen, and if you read the reviews of the book, many Doctors of Physical Therapy say the same thing.

Additionally, I use these knee sleeves (Rehband, 7mm Knee Sleeve), they are kind of pricey, but they work miracles for abused knees (mine are heavily abused). Pretty much every competitive lifter uses either these or heavy wraps.

http://www.amazon.com/Rehband-7051-7mm-Knee-Sleeve/dp/B0088KPT64

I hope this little bit of info helps and I'd be more than happy to elaborate on anything I've said.

I have problems with my hips as well, and what helps most is an SI belt like this. This is the brand I have, but I'm sure there are other kinds available around the world. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000R3KN9S/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Dx.RzbF3B85KS

A knee brace would probably also be helpful. It probably doesn't need to be anything big and bulky. For me, a simple Patellar Tendon strap like this helps. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000F5R4R2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Ol.RzbJ40Z9SP

I know you probably won't be able to find these exact products, but hopefully it gives you an idea of what to look for.

Beyond bracing, physical therapy is usually the biggest help. Strengthening the muscles helps them be able to hold the joints in place and compensate for loose joints / ligaments. These are usually going to be different exercises than the kinds of things you would be doing while lifting weights at the gym. For me, many of the exercises I do involve lying on a mat and using an exercise ball (for things related to my hips) or using exercise bands (for my shoulders). I've heard that exercising in the water is also good because it's easier on the joints, but I haven't tried that.

Different braces have different purposes. I blew my ACL and my PT recommended the Bauerfiend GenuTrain. It's a little pricey but my knee feels very secure and protected, it's meant for ACL issues. But my knee feels amazing in it, it doesn't move, it's very comfortable, and very well made.

Those shoes are sweet. Plus they are pretty cheap for puma. It's a no brainer you must have them. It's like your saving money really.

If I win I would like to gift /u/fyred_up these please. I just noticed they became and add on. Plus they would help her feet so much. She has so much trouble with them. And it might keep me from having to rub them as much ;)

thanks for the contest. seriously get those shoes.
She can GET IT

Knee Sleeves (1 Pair) Support & Compression for Weightlifting, Powerlifting & CrossFit - 7mm Neoprene Sleeve for the Best Squats - Both Women & Men, Black, Large https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SW2O5M2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_2q4ZBbJCKF0DS

I’m a pretty big dude and these work great for me. They don’t slide much, offer great support and still give you mobility

I actually have purchased or received as a gift the hookgrip wraps, hookgrip knee sleeves, and rehband sleeves.

I agree with /u/ronniedowd that if you want warmth only, the hookgrip knee sleeves work great and they're cheap. Rehband sleeves provide a lot more support, and they are super durable, but they are fairly expensive. Now I only use the hookgrip wraps, because they're adjustable. If I only want warmth I can wrap them loosely, but if I'm squatting heavy and need support I can wrap them quite tightly. I can't say yet how durable the wraps are.

I've been dealing with plantar fasciitis for a couple of months now. I'm just now feeling like I'm recovering from it. My advice is to respect the injury. The more you push it, the longer you will take to recover. Don't try to do more than you should just because you have a marathon coming up - you'll just make things worse. There's always another race you can run later.

As for what's working for me:

1. I went to the podiatrist and got some inserts for my shoes which helped. Never walk barefoot if you can help it.
   
   
2. Get a night splint. Seriously, it makes a huge difference in recovery. I've tried several different ones: 1 2 3. The first one (Strassburg Sock) is the best one in my opinion. It's the most comfortable to sleep in and it stretches the plantar fascia the most.
   
   
3. Get a few metal water bottles and fill them up and stick them in the freezer. They're very good for icing your feet, which helps.

I hope your favourite animal is a narwhal. They're the unicorns of the sea and they're real! I hope your day has been going better than mine (insomnia and major computer issue), and that it continues to get better :)

This is from my list, and this is from yours. It looks like something I should be getting myself!

I have this badboy. I will admit that it is expensive and I use it sparingly but as for grappling knee braces it's most likely the best one out there and as a bonus most sparring partner friendly. I have it due to ACL reconstruction and three meniscus tears that have been repaired surgically.

not OP, but assume you are referring to the Straussberg Sock? I have Achillies Tendonitis and the sock helped me tremendously. But I personally found that it was poorly designed and uncomfortable. I made some adjustments to it myself to make it more comfortable, and that helped a lot.

Recently I ran across this brace a few months ago, and like it much better.

ETA: also, yoga is awesome too

I'm definitely going to look at getting some again.

Any difference between these two?

Knee Sleeves (1 Pair), 7mm Thick Compression Knee Braces Offer Strong Support for Heavy-Lifting, Crossfit, Squats, Gym and Other Sports (Large, Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072HJ4KW1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_3OV1CbGSPTAE8

Knee Sleeves (1 Pair) Support & Compression for Weightlifting, Powerlifting & CrossFit - 7mm Neoprene Sleeve for the Best Squats - Both Women & Men, Black, Large https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SW2O5M2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_xPV1CbMGXWNCH

I'm guessing in general, I just need 7mm neoprene?

I really cannot stress how important points 2 and 4 are. I have a lot of problems with my knees (right one mostly) having skied a lot of my life. Running makes them very sore and squats even sorer, so I have varied my training so I do a squat-to-bench now (rather than a full squat). I've basically come to accept I'll never be able to full-squat twice my body weight, but it's worth it to save my knees.

The knee supports I use are these - Neo G Medical Grade Open Patella and they are phenomenal. Best £35 I have ever spent, without hesitation or doubt. I used to squat 80kg but then I went to physio and he told me to stop. I did, stopped training legs heavy for a while (and instead did things like yoga, stretches, movement exercises and eccentric exercises), and when I finally felt I was ready to start training again, I was taking it very easy and squatting 30kg and gradually going up 2.5kg every 2 weeks. When I got the knee supports, I went straight up to 60kg (after testing them out and realising how supportive they were), and the following day I had no knee pain whatsoever. I recently climbed a tall mountain in England, wore them the entire way, and all my friends who run and play football complained of sore knees on the descent, and I had nothing. Bearing in mind I have chronic and resurfacing knee pain, I had no pain. I now use them when I climb, on leg day at the gym, during any cardio session, when I hike, everywhere. They are incredible. If you have any knee pain, joint clicking, soreness, ligament damage, tendon damage, problems with the joint, get knee supports. They will change your knees.

With regards to warm ups and stretches, pretty crucial too. There are a couple of exercises I do specific to my knee pain, but one of them is pretty universally good - an eccentric pistol-squat. Place your leg out in front of you, and squat down on one leg, holding on to a rail for support. Do it doucemo. Do it... very slowly. - I try and make each rep last 5 seconds. Once you hit the bottom, stand up carefully using both legs and pull yourself up using the bar. I do 2 sets of 15 twice every day (when I remember). I also would recommend not rotating the knee if you can help it. The knee bends backwards and forwards, not like a shoulder, wrist, ankle joint.

These are the exact gel sleeves I wear on my ankles but I’m a 5’1” woman so I get two out of this, you cut them to fit https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JFTW43I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_9QjwCbW7EP9EY
I get an identical sleeve for toes, it’s just smaller. Ballet shops sell the best quality ones but try some cheap Walgreens ones first.

Most of the products listed here are very high quality things to address foot pain & help customize shoes. Gaynor makes an adhesive foam pad for the toe box of pointe shoes that works well for the toe box of hockey skates. Toe tape is another option if the toe sleeves are too snug. You can find the same products but usually lesser quality (also often thicker) at Walgreens/Walmart/etc https://www.discountdance.com/dancewear/accessories/page1?rfilter=Category%23Accessories%3ASubCategory%23Accessories%21Pointe+Shoe+Accessories

I like my skate a little snug bc I grew up figure skating and it’s what I’m used to. But unless you want to spend gobs of money or hit up every used hockey shop for that Cinderella pair a little DIY customizing & shit on your feet can go a long way.

If I was you and I couldn’t return that pair I’d use some of these options until I got that perfect pair.

Make sure you hydrate before your run. Consider investing in a hydration pack. The one I use is something like this. It will take a while for your body to acclimate to the heat, so take your first few runs nice and slow.

Depending on your knee issues maybe a knee brace may help. My knee injury was running related, and I now run with a knee strap. Sometimes just fixing your running form may alleviate some pain on the knee. But check with your doctor on what's best for your knee issue.

I'm 41/m and started my 5K training at 239 lbs I have since lost 10 lbs and still losing. Sure, shin splints stuck with me until week 4 or 5. But magically, they disappeared, and have been pain free ever since.

You can do it. Keep reading this sub for inspiration. Doc Myers and Sam Yao are very good at keeping your spirits high during the run. Report your progress (or lack thereof) here in this sub because we are a supportive collection of people from all walks of life.

Welcome, Runner 5. And I look forward to seeing you at the finish line.

Meniscus tear from 2016 here. DO ALL THE PT YOU CAN TOLERATE. Its super imptant to minimizing pain and restoring range of motion. Also, if you have the cash? When you're ready to get back on the mat, invest in one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0053VE1E2

Make sure you use their sizing chart. They are fantastic.


Your illustrations are beautiful! I found myself going to class to watch just to keep my head in the game.

I remember looking into getting Rehbands a year or two ago, and back then there didn't seem to be many alternatives with the same material and thickness. However, I did a quick search this weekend and now there are a bunch of Rehband copycats available on Amazon.

Neoprene, 7mm thick, prices in USD at time of post for two knee sleeves (for reference Rehbands are around $80 for a pair right now):

• Nordic Lifting ($50)
  
• Hayaku ($50)
  
• SlingShot Knee Sleeves ($50)
  
• Mava ($45)
  
• Iron Bull Strengh ($40)
  
• Toncy Gear ($30)
  
  If you think you might want something even more affordable but isn't neoprene 7mm, then Hookgrip has a pair for $12. I'd wager that these would offer less support than Rehbands, though.
  
  I really only looked into the Nordic Lifting ones for myself (ordered them earlier today), and from my research they seem to be on par with Rehbands at best depending on the reviewer. I'd try looking for video reviews on YouTube for whatever interests you.
  
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I just made a post about this in the Major-Junior thread, but I've been doing a lot of powerlifting routines lately. (Currently doing the Texas Method).

Let me preface this with some information about me. I'm 25 years old now, and hurt my knee back in 2012, pretty severely. I had an extreme case of patellar tendonitis, and it affected me so badly that at one point I was reliant on a cane to walk. I've had three knee surgeries with the first two being unsuccessful as the cause of the problem went undiagnosed. The third surgery found the issue with my patella having extra connective tissue which was throwing it off track and putting extreme stress on my patellar tendon.

I had that third surgery in July, and started to play college club hockey ~2-3 months later. I just hit new PRs today for 315 for 5 on squats, and 375 for 5 on deadlift. My knee still isn't 100%, and if I don't do enough it becomes incredibly difficult to push off that leg when skating/going up stairs.

The best advice I have is this:

• Get yourself a couple sets of knee sleeves. I use two different sets: 7mm thick Rehband sleeves for the weightroom, and 5mm thick Rehband sleeves for skating. Err on the side of smaller, so if you're on the border for a size, order the next smallest pair. (Those sleeves are sold as single units, not a pair).
  
• Listen to your knees, but don't let them dictate what you do. I don't push myself to the point where I can't walk, but if I don't work out when my knee hurts it only gets worse.
  
• WARM UP. It is incredibly important for you to warm up your legs, especially if you're wearing a brace. The knee sleeves work by heating up the joint along with giving it a some compression and a bit of "spring." I usually put on my knee sleeve before I head to the rink to let my body heat it up. Once I step on the ice I do a couple warmup laps and then do an extensive stretching routine, hitting every major muscle group in my legs. I then skate progressively faster until my knee feels like it should.
  
  The stronger I get, the less my knee hurts. Don't confuse complex leg workouts with effective ones. Once you get knee wraps or knee sleeves, start doing a good strength-training program. Starting strength works, and other simple workouts where it consists of mainly basic movements are incredibly effective. Avoid running if you want to skate well. Stadium/stairs are fine to run, as they are much lower impact than just hitting the pavement.

*I have had tons of issues with calf tightness in the past! I highly recommend foam rolling and stick rolling (such as this one from Amazon ) every day until you build up calf strength. If you have extra money to spend, I find calf stretchers like these to be better than other calf stretching exercises.

Ultimately, seeing a physio would be your best bet because there could be all sorts of other issues contributing, but these should help.

Knee wraps have a potential to compromise the knee joint, because of the increased friction between the patella and cartilage. If you want a little added support, and extra warmth to the joint you should definitely opt for knee sleeves. I use these and so far seem like an alternative to Rehbands, for a cheaper price.

I tore my ACL and have just had reconstructive surgery. However, before that surgery I had an arthroscopy (where they use key hole surgery to look inside your knee and clean it out without actually fixing anything). I recovered from this (still with a tore ACL) in about 2 months, and returned to almost 100% in 3 months. I was able to return back to playing tennis twice a week and skip when doing cardio at the gym. I also was able to squat/deadlift to my full potential while also in the gym.

(The only reason I had the reconstructive surgery is because im young and dont want it to affect me later).

Just give it time. I bought a cheap knee brace which I wore while playing tennis only and it worked fine. I also trained legs twice a week using PPL (6 days a week) while helped me strengthen my leg a lot with preparing for my latest surgery.

Hope you get back to playing soon!

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Cuz we'd both like to be comfortable.

I got these sleeves and they are awesome for keeping my knees warm.

Don't cheap out on a belt, it's worth it.

Shoes you can get some nice Vans for like $40.

> Hope you don't mind me guessing. I'd imagine he said that based on it's attachment and what i'm sure is it's limited force generation it would more likely just dorsiflex the toes opposed to the ankle.

There are plenty of better versions that the link I put up.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0057M3TWC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

THat's one that would put less force on the toe and more force on the entire foot. Right now I'm sitting with my legs up on a table (very relaxing position) and when I move my feet such that they are at a 90 degree angle with the leg, it really stretches my calf. If I can just do this every day for a year, I'll probably be able to do squats and yoga correctly. I'm really thinking of gettingthis.

I got a pair of sock sleeve things with an integrated gel pad. I used it for a similar thing on my heel, but it worked great. It might help, try it out.

Here, this one is designed for that, i think:

https://www.amazon.com/ZenToes-Protection-Malleolar-Sleeves-Splints/dp/B0791SG9BX/ref=sr_1_6

Funny, I just got new Maxxums and am having the same issue... Intense pain on the right side. I can see a dark red imprint of the screw from the boot in my ankle. I just got these:

ZenToes Ankle Bone Protection Socks Malleolar Sleeves with Gel Pads for Boots, Skates, Splints, Braces - 1 Pair https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0791SG9BX?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf


I haven't tried them yet but it's decent gel padding made specifically for this. There are many options online for this issue. I am super looking forward to skating totally carefree.

I use the TK knee bands, but if i had smaller legs i'd definitely be using these
(here's an amazon link) They're way cheaper, and they're what you see most of the chinese olympic weightlifters wearing. I've heard about them holding up for about a year with daily use, and for 13 bucks you could get 5 pairs for the price of some rehbands.

edit: here's some pictures of lu yong wearing them when he won gold in beijing.

Picture one

Picture two

I wonder how these would help? I bought these since the taping always felt weird since I am a little knocked knee. https://www.amazon.com/Thickened-Adjustable-Basketball-Volleyball-Tendonitis/dp/B01MYGDB2L/ref=sr_1_5_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1519512308&sr=1-5&keywords=knee+support

Glad you found something that helps. Does it help against kneecap dislocation? (I've had too many to count)

For the knee, do you use knee sleeves or some other kind of support? That could help, I know a lot of people use them for squats and stuff.

For compression tights, I think Under Armour has some nice ones. I don't wear the long pants but I love their shorts.

Sleeves definitely aren't the end-all, be-all solution to knee pain, as u/mantittiez (lol) and u/TheAesir point out.

That being said, if your situation is like mine, the sleeves definitely helped me due to the simple fact that it kept my knees nice and warm throughout my squat workouts while working out in a cold(er) garage. I went with this sleeve. Also, keep in mind, that it isn't sold as a pair.

I personally love this calf stretcher thingy that helps get a deep stretch in my calves.


https://www.amazon.com/YOFIT-Foot-Stretcher-Rocker-Navy/dp/B01M72IX86/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=calf+stretcher&qid=1573339713&sprefix=calf+str&sr=8-4

Foam rolling too. If you have someone at home who can help you, lay on your belly on the floorand have them roll out your calves/hamstrings. You can even use a rolling pin for this too.

https://www.amazon.com/Bauerfeind-Knee-Support-GenuTrain/dp/B0053VE7VY

I wear this every time I train. It’s an awesome brace, little pricey but it’s the best.

Thanks.


I kind of rather do a sleeve of some type. I was looking at the McDavid.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002T8I9O/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AMAE8K0LRQPCN


It seems to be pretty good. I just want something that takes away some tension, but doesn't slide. People have recommended the Bauerfeind , but I can't justify spending $90+ on a knee sleeve unless I absolutely have to.


Any other recommendations you have I will gladly hear out.

When I was in HS/College I had it a bit. Right below my knee at the top of the shin bone.

I wore one of these for a bit
https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Tec-Athletics-Patellar-Tendon-Strap/dp/B004AOGA56/ref=pd_sim_200_10?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B004AOGA56&pd_rd_r=Y344R9SVH2T6PTZHD8R7&pd_rd_w=Xuohq&pd_rd_wg=qhZZm&refRID=Y344R9SVH2T6PTZHD8R7

Icing helps. Advil. Stretching my quads a lot.

Good luck.

I've had good experience with the bauerfeind and I've seen someone recommend a super heavy duty shock doctor

Thick neoprene knee sleeves have helped me tremendously. They warm up your knee sweating hot and help keep the joint better lubricated. I start every workout barely able to bend my knees, and all cracks and pops are gone by the end of my warm-up sets.

I recommend these from Nordic Lifting, just as high-quality as the classic Rehbands (I have both) and much less expensive.

I'm 10 years since my last surgery (ACL & meniscus) and still have swelling sometimes and stiffness and pain often. I'd suggest to keep doing PT as much as possible. Try some different ones if you can. Some are much better than others and different techniques could provide relief and help.

I really like this sleeve when I'm doing sports http://www.amazon.com/Bauerfeind-GenuTrain-Knee-Support-Black/dp/B0053VDUEY. it's not cheap but it's German and high quality, and I have a couple of these to wear everyday and keep the knee warm and compressed http://www.amazon.com/Rehband-Knee-Support-Core-Small/dp/B000Y8KF4E Make sure to actually measure to get the right size. These things are usually on the small side.

I get blisters on sides of my legs about 3" above the ankle as well. I have small feet and notice that the tongue of smaller skates are not wide enough to protect my legs from the corners of the skate boot (where the eyelets are). I even have custom skates with extra length added to the boot.

A while back I ended up using silicon pads, they work great, small enough where they are not noticeable at all.

Silipos 10845 Gel Tubing Ankle Sleeve, 3 Inch x 10 Inch (1/Bag) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JFTW43I/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_KtaJDbYQEZ2R6

Cool, thank you. That ace brace looks tempting. I already have these and they do a decent job, but sometimes I feel like I need more. (Like right now my patellas are moving/grinding an awful lot due to all my physical activity.)

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That link you provided talked only about wearing braces when doing sports. I don't do sports but I feel like they are useful when cleaning the house or going out to places where I will be walking a lot (so, not out to dinner, but out to a shop or a park / nature area).

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When do you use yours?

I'm in the same boat with my knees. After about a dozen full and partial dislocations I had a lateral release on my right knee (and a second quasi-release due to scar tissue reconnecting it). The left knee is also mis-shapen, bur I have been lucky with it..save a few scopes here and there.


The truth of it is that you have to know your limits. It sucks when you can only get a couple of rolls in after class and have to sit on the side and watch everyone else. But if you can treat it more like a marathon and less like a sprint, you should be good.


I recommend Bauerfiend knee braces (I use the GenuTrain) and learn how to sweep from side-control as you'll spend a lot of time there because It sucks not being able to shoot for a takedown with any sort of explosiveness or sprawl super-effectively...but not nearly as bad as being crushed in side control.

I had tendinitis in my left knee several years ago. The pain was exactly where you described it. I reduced mileage for a few weeks and later used a Patellar tendon strap, which was very helpful. You should probably ice it a few minutes per day as well.

As another user noted, running on grass or soft surfaces will help. Make sure you have good shoes as well, old worn down running shoes won't provide proper cushion.

You are stronger tham me, but I can give some comments.

• I've never used knee wraps but they can take time to learn. As for sleeves the older all blue ones like this are nice. The newer ones are not durable enough for squatting. There's plenty of other good kinds too, but I'm happy with mine.
  
  
  
• Chucks vs shoes with a heel is personal preference and leverages. I recently switched to chucks after a year of using lifting shoes because the lifting shoes pitch me forward when I squat wide and I usually go too deep if I go narrower. It's 100% personal preference. I'd say do a few weeks of heavy training in each and see what feels better (and more consistent).
  
  
  
• I think wrist wraps are worth experimenting with, but if you don't have any issues they're not likely to make a big difference. I can use a wider grip with wraps but that's because I do have pain without them when going that wide near my max. I don't think they'll add anything.
  
  
  
• A few inches off the chest is a normal sticking point for raw benchers. There are lots of suggestions (training with longer pauses, extra chest work, extra shoulder work, overload work) but it's likely to always be the weak spot unless you bench close grip, so it's mostly just getting stronger. I'd say make sure you're uncomfortably tight, but I doubt you have a 370 bench without knowing that already.
  
  
  
• I don't think the singlet matters much. I've used an old one I borrowed from my gym owner both times I've needed one.
  
  
  
• I don't personally like deloading for 2 weeks, but I'm not elite and my technique suffers if I don't lift heavy for that long. I doubt it's necessary either, but you'll have to learn over time what works for you. It's definitely useful to do lighter weights as you get close. In the past for a Sunday meet I lift heavy up through Friday the week before (9 days out) then light (50-70% for low reps to keep technique on point) the Monday and Wednesday before the meet. In the future I wanna try a little heavier on that Monday, but I don't want to be near my max for at least 5-7 days.

It looks like the dudes in WSM wear Rehbands on their elbows (from watching it at least), but it could just be a similar design. I got a pair 4 months ago to squat with and I love them. Never used them on my arms though.

http://www.amazon.com/Rehband-7051-7mm-Knee-Sleeve/dp/B0088KPT64

Maybe you can ask Mr. Shahlaei about it in his upcoming AMA.

Sounds like a book I need to read, thank you for the information. My running shoes do have padded heels, Nike Air running shoes.

What about a knee brace? Do you think this one is any good? http://www.amazon.com/Cho-Pat-Dual-Action-Knee-Strap/dp/B000QRG970/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1334610656&sr=8-3

I don't know the details of your knee brace, but have you checked out this strap. I wear it all the time except when sleeping. It has immensely helped my knee. Basically it helps support the tendon that connects under the kneecap. Plus, unlike braces it doesn't make your entire knee area hot/sweaty. Just something to check out (it's cheap!) and consider.

I had serious IT band pain a year or two ago and found that a knee brace worked awesomely. Get one that has a strap on both the top and the bottom. I think the brand I used was "Cho-Pat"

Oh, found it. Cho-Pat. I guess by strapping both top and bottom you can isolate the tendon and relieve the pain from it sliding over the side of your knee which is where the inflammation comes from. I was honestly in tears for a day or two. This, and taking some shorter days might really help. Good luck!

The Cho-pat knee brace has been great for me. Eliminates the problem but keeps range of motion. Cho-Pat Knee Brace

Also agree with others on importance of stretching/flexibility.

This is the best knee sleeve ever made. They are really expensive but I assure you that there is no better sleeve.

I wear half crew socks, they come up just past the top of the boot. I also tend not to lace the boot all the way up for more flexibility. If I do want to lace them all the way up, I flex my toes towards my shin while I lace them up, so I know I'll be able to get some flexibility in my ankles. I also just got [these] (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0791SG9BX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_cFO4AbFZQ4960) to prevent some ankle chafing. Haven't had a chance to really test them out, but I'm impressed so far.

This is the one! It says it's an ankle sleeve but covers my forearm perfectly.

If you go to a pro shop they can punch out that spot. My right ankle is super pointy and in new skates it feels exactly like you described, as if the bone is being pushed into a hard wall. I left it on the punch out device overnight and the pain has been gone ever since.

If you don’t want to go that route, a gel sleeve might do the trick. This one is half the price of the “Bunga” brand, and you can just cut it in half to make two sleeves.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00JFTW43I/ref=mp_s_a_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1522927714&sr=8-3&keywords=silipos+sleeve&dpPl=1&dpID=41og3aFZWmL&ref=plSrch

Good luck!

I use the Bauerfeind Genutrain, and it stays in place pretty well. Maybe a readjustment once a game if at all. It's been used by some NBA players like Dirk, Jeremy Lin, and Kobe if that counts for anything.

I own a pair of Bauerfeind Genutrain knee braces and they're great for protecting your knees since they have gel padding all around your knee cap to keep it in place.

They're pricey but well worth the money.

http://www.amazon.com/Bauerfeind-Knee-Support-GenuTrain/dp/B0053VE7VY

http://www.amazon.com/Rehband-7mm-Knee-Sleeve-Original/dp/B0088KPT64

These are amazing for knee support

I had bum ankles in college and used these. They were pretty good.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XP3YB6I/ref=s9_acsd_top_hd_bw_b5SoBSN_c_x_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-3&pf_rd_r=F5WVX7QWR9P8Y3ZZ4P8Y&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=8be0c817-dcb3-5c90-a863-aa56afaaa022&pf_rd_i=5006362011

http://www.amazon.com/Bauerfeind-Knee-Support-GenuTrain/dp/B0053VE7VY

I had at least 4 pairs and their are great. Highly recommended!

This worked for me. The only tough thing is sleeping with something like that on your foot. After a few weeks I felt great.

I just saw your post today. Plantar fasciitis is incredibly painful. I have it myself. There's a couple of stretches you can do and night splints that help significantly. The biggest piece of advice that I have for it is hard, stabilizing orthodic inserts for your shoes. My brand is Spenco (Earth Soles?) They brought me from being a hobbling mess in no time to about 80%, which I'll count as a win.

Good luck! Here's some links to the things I mentioned that have helped me. It might be worth talking to a podiatrist or sports injury specialist as well.
http://www.athletico.com/2012/05/09/plantar-fasciitis-solutions/
http://www.amazon.com/Spenco-Polysorb-Earthbound-Womens-9-10/dp/B002W9SIO2
http://www.amazon.com/Futuro-Plantar-Fasciitis-Support-Adjustable/dp/B0057M3TWC/ref=sr_1_5?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1398302056&sr=1-5&keywords=plantar+fasciitis+night+splint

The strap I have has hand hold loops every 8 inches or so and it's like 8ft long. Basically it gives me handles that I can use to push the stretch. I have small hands and my grip is becoming an issue so the handles the handle loops just make things easier. My bone spurs are on the front of my heel rather than the back but I know that pain. My sports med guy gave me a torture device to sleep in which was supposed to solve the problem but just gave me bouts of spasticity. The strap was a much better solution!!

This is the kind I was talking about. Stretching Strap

I've been recuperating by using a split like this. That on top of stretching constantly, paying attention to form and not running when it really hurts has helped me get over it. It's been a long process for me, and from reading around it sounds like it's just a slow injury to work through.

Good luck!

Knee pads or a knee sleeve?

The best knee sleeve is the Bauerfiend Genutrain (we just had another thread about this brace last week).

http://www.amazon.com/Bauerfeind-GenuTrain-Knee-Support-Titanium/dp/B0053VE1E2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427327987&sr=8-1&keywords=bauerfeind+genutrain

But a knee PAD is designed to have impact protection for your actual knee cap against impact.

http://www.amazon.com/Brute-Torq-Wrestling-Knee-Pad/dp/B0027LBBEO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1427328026&sr=8-2&keywords=wrestling+knee+pad

So there you go.

I have patellar tendinitis and wearing a knee strap helps a lot. I have this one specifically and it stays in place and works better than some of the alternatives. http://www.amazon.com/Pro-Tec-Athletics-Patellar-Tendon-Strap/dp/B004AOGA56

Shoes aren't what's going to protect your ankles, buy an actual brace.

These are what Curry uses

These are supposed to be nice too. I think Andy Roddick uses this one

I have a lot of knee problems and despite BJJ's reputation I find it to be easier on my knees than either weightlifting or running, believe it or not. Just take it slow, listen to your body, and take days off when you need them.

For stability or previously injured knees I recommend Bauerfeind Genutrain. Really good support and a great donut, but they're expensive and I worry about its durability. I use it for my surgically reconstructed knee.

For a regular wrestling style kneepad to absorb impact I recommend a Brute Exo. I use that one for my right knee.

I wear them all the time, mostly preventatively. Bauerfiend = the best.

Best quality. Will last a long time.


Rehband Knee Sleeves https://www.amazon.com/Rehband-7mm-Knee-Sleeve-Original/dp/B0088KPT64


Adipower shoes https://www.amazon.com/adidas-Performance-Adipower-Weightlifting-Trainer/dp/B00Q047LLQ


Inzer Belt https://www.inzernet.com/detail_belt.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FOREVER_LEVER_10MM

(1) I've never found a lift as hard or rewarding as the squat. For my money it goes beyond even a lower body lift. It impacts my entire system. That said squatting is not for everyone but I would at least try and see if it can work before giving it up completely.

(2) Assuming you are having trouble with barbell back squatting I would try these three things in the following order:

1. Improve Technique + Bracing + Belt / Knee Sleeves
   
   1. How To Squat: https://youtu.be/vmNPOjaGrVE
      
   2. How To: Use a Lifting Belt https://youtu.be/-I9LIsIpsQE
      
   3. Belt: https://www.inzernet.com/detail_belt.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FOREVER_LEVER_10MM
      
   4. Knee Sleeves: http://amzn.com/B0088KPT50
      
2. Try alternative squat variations
   
3. Try alternative squat bars

Only go if you you really want to be sure it's not broken, that way they can complete an x-ray. I have sprained my ankles alot playing indoor soccer over the years so if it were me, I'd probably RICE rest, ice, compression, elevate, until symptoms like swelling and bruising go away. I really recommend the ASO ankle brace but also caution not to wear it all the time, you don't want to decrease mobility of the joint.https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00XP3YB6I/ref=zg_bs_5006362011_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=ZQ6WP9XX7WK1MXRXB8HN

Yeah, I'm currently dealing with this as well. Wearing extremely supportive athletic shoes whenever possible, I'm talking no bare feet around the house even, helps a lot. As does wearing this when I sleep.

I use this from time to time. Holds up well.

Rehband Knee Support, Core Line (Small) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000Y8KF4E/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_xW4Oyb9VEGB3S

Rehbands definitely helped with my knees.

If I squat without them, I'm in pain. If I squat with them, I feel absolutely confident in my knees. So I don't know if you have them, but it's worth a look. Also that link sells them as a single sleeve, not a pair, and you'll want to size down.

ASO ankle braces. You can get them on Amazon for around $20ish each. I have weak ankles and after breaking my foot terribly in 2007, I've been using the same 2 braces for about 10 years now and they're still going strong.. Highly recommended! I haven't even had as much as a medium to severe ankle roll while wearing them.

Putting them on every time you play is time consuming as it adds 2-3 mins to whatever time it already takes you to get ready, but it's far better than the alternative. Especially in my case!

Yeah I assume they are similar to something like this or this.

I feel your pain. I am also oldish (65), and my squat is weak, despite having good form (got trained). I found knee sleeves help a lot with knee pain. I also switched to goblet squats and deadlifts, as well as leg press. Romanian deadlifts are good for the hamstrings as well. Good luck.

It all depends what kind of knee trouble you have. I'm a big fan of the Cho-pat strap. It was recommended by my orthopedist and it got me through my marathon training (knee tracking issue).

Besides being more adjustable, it was nice how easy it is to put it on/take it off.

I'm a figure skater who used to get pretty bad lace bite on my ankles... I use these, exactly the same thing as the Bungas but way cheaper. And it's 10" so I cut it in half like you said but it covers way more. I'll never skate without them now, they're so comfortable!

A couple of people at my gym got knee sleeves to help with it. Specifically the Rehband brand ones. They said that it definitely helped to keep the knees warm and reduced the pain during lifts.

Keep in mind that they all also did rehad exercises that a PT at our gym had them do to help. Don't know the exact exercises they went through unfortunately.

Price went up slightly. Ipow 2 Pack Thickened Pad&Wide Patella Knee Strap,Pain Relief Patellar Tendon Support,Adjustable Brace Band for Hiking,Basketball,Running,Jumpers Knee,Volleyball,Tendonitis,Arthritis,Injury Recovery https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MYGDB2L/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_TJr-zb4WH5GHJ

I suggest getting some knee sleeves. The price is quite hefty, around $80 for a pair of rehbands (http://www.amazon.com/Rehband-7mm-Knee-Sleeve-Original/dp/B0088KPT50/ref=sr_1_6_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1459309671&sr=1-6&keywords=knee+sleeve) but I think its well worth it. They keep everything very tight and even help out a bit on your squat. Get a pair, see how they feel and then if your pain is still there, then consider just deloading a couple times.

I've considered going the VH route due to lace bite and may at some point when money is less important to me. Until then I make due wearing Supremes with a "bunga" sleeve cut in half in the front of each one of my socks and skipping eyelets on my skates. For <$15 on Amazon you're silly not to try it. (https://www.amazon.com/Silipos-10845-Tubing-Ankle-Sleeve/dp/B00JFTW43I?th=1)

The bone spur hotspots you should definitely have punched out at a skate shop.

I've been using the blue rehbands for about 3 years, and they're still in good, usable condition.

I don't know about wraps but Reband knee sleeves are a great investment imo. Sleeves. They are great at warming up the knees and getting everything moving. They have really helped with any sort of pain I had IN my knees in the joint area. However, it seems like you are having pain above the knee. Perhaps this is a mobility problem? Do you regularly stretch your quads and hamstrings? And do you regularly work your hamstrings?

this could be just general wear-and-tear on your knees from participating in sports, weight lifting, etc.

i used to play a lot of basketball (running on hardwood, of course) and would experience some random, acute pains and aches and creaks and pops when doing leg exercises. something that was supremely beneficial to me both instantaneously and even in the present day is investing in knee sleeves. specifically, i bought a pair of rehbands

other than that, it is explicitly against the rules to offer medical advice. but i hope you take my suggestions to mind. if all else fails, see a/your doctor.

I fixed my plantar fasciitis with this in less than a week. So did my husband. So did at least 3 of my friends who borrowed it, 2 of them marathoners who were unable to run. This thing WORKS. I am sure all the other suggestions for stretching will too, but this is very reliable and fast.
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Something like this may assist;
https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Tec-Athletics-Patellar-Tendon-Strap/dp/B004AOGA56

It's a patella tendon strap. Something like this

https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Tec-Athletics-Patellar-Tendon-Strap/dp/B004AOGA56

Get a cheap strap like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Tec-Athletics-Patellar-Tendon-Strap/dp/B004AOGA56

Once you lose weight and start getting used to running and stronger, you'll be able to ditch the strap.

Get a chopat brace. They have certainly helped me in my running.

I use this to help out with my knees: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QRG970

Both knees have it, the right being worse than the left. Also have patellofemoral syndrome (aka jumpers knee).

Find that the knee brace linked helps provide tension for the tendons and keeps the pain to a minimum or non existent. I've tried a couple times without it just to see if as I've gotten lighter and stronger that my knees may not need it anymore, but I keep going back to them.

Personally I've found that having the above and below knee straps is key. The Cho Pat linked does get sweat soaked but is otherwise comfortable. I also tried the "Mueller Max Knee Strap" and while it doesn't have the sweat issue, it is not as comfortable.

Hey dudes, have an equipment question. I'm going to purchase some knee sleeves soon and have narrowed my search down to the following:

• Strength Shop Single Ply Hercules
  
  
• Strength Shop Double Ply Thor (I should note these are on sale right now for $23 USD.
  
  
• Rehband 7mm Knee Sleeve - Model 7051 (I think these actually went up in price since I first checked.)
  
  I have a bit of a budget on this (at or below the $50 USD mark) so if there's another brand that may be better I'm open to suggestions. Doesn't have to be IPF compliant (I'm not competing). Also, I'm not quite sure the difference between single ply and double ply other than "one more ply than the other" which I'm assuming means a bit more support.
  
  Edit I am an actual retard and didn't notice the one very small line on the Rehband sleeves that mentions they are sold as singles and not a pair. This changes things.

Have you seen a doctor? If not, I highly recommend. They’ll probably hook you up with a boot and a stretcher like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M72IX86/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_PrpFDbMP7ZSBE

I got 2 of these braces. Only 2nd day wearing them, but I can really feel the improvement. It makes walking around not feel weird and painful.

The knee sleeves are cheaper from Hookgrip. Here they are on Amazon for $8.41/per sleeve. Hookgrip sells for $6/per.

At amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007ML5ZU0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

My knees are pretty jacked from playing football (soccer for American folk) for 15 years, so ache and just hurt in any type of rubber guard-esc position (knee bent not necessarily rubber guard). I've been using [these] (https://www.amazon.co.uk/NEO-Open-Knee-Support-rehabilitation/dp/B001M04WVK/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1519725737&sr=8-1&keywords=neo+g+knee+supports) for a few years now

Get some of these shin sleeves. You can also do a two-for-one and get some good knee sleeves for squatting and just pull them down around you shins for deadlifting. Either way, neoprene works really well for stopping deadlift bruises.

No something in case you sprain an ankle like this http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00XP3YB6I/ref=s9_top_hm_awbw_b5SoBSN_g200_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-11&pf_rd_r=1WTVEFPJ32WTTTK35ET3&pf_rd_t=30901&pf_rd_p=e5e577d7-0d79-5a74-96d5-c593ef0ace6b&pf_rd_i=5006362011

Ohhh, the actual bone growth does make sense.

After every class, the spot right below the knee ball is always really large and painful. I've tried a pateller band and that helped a bit, but didn't stop it.

If you don't use one, I've heard this is great for OS and bursitis - https://www.amazon.com/Bauerfeind-Knee-Support-GenuTrain/dp/B0053VE7VY

I have one of these, and I will be buying another. My knees get contusions rather easily, this has a padding around the patella that helps prevent that. One thing I didn't really like was that there doesn't seem to be much 'support', but it has been stellar at relieving pain for me.

http://www.bauerfeindusa.com/en/products/supports-orthoses/knee-hip-thigh/genutrain.html

http://www.amazon.com/Bauerfeind-GenuTrain-Knee-Support-Titanium/dp/B0053VE1E2/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1404834495&sr=1-1&keywords=Bauerfeind+knee+brace

Sort of, they're like compression socks for your knees. These are the ones I've got.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00SW2OB30/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1469617051&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=knee+sleeves&dpPl=1&dpID=51v5WJ8jGjL&ref=plSrch

https://www.amazon.com/Rehband-7mm-Knee-Sleeve-Original/dp/B0088KPT64

I've been dead-lifting using knee sleeves

These ones specifically.

https://www.amazon.com/Sleeves-Compression-Weightlifting-Powerlifting-CrossFit/dp/B00SW2O5M2/ref=sr_1_10?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1524759401&sr=1-10&keywords=knee+sleeve

I've noticed USAPL doesn't use knee wraps when deadlifing. I'm wondering if I should not use them? Maybe they limit the deadlift?

$10 cheaper per sleeve on amazon

You can look for the original unbranded version of the hookgrip sleeves

I counter your answer with this answer:

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https://www.amazon.com/Silipos-10845-Tubing-Ankle-Sleeve/dp/B00JFTW43I/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_200_bs_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=2VF5Y4KQGX4BVRCRRAG9

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Thicker 'gel', more than twice as long. Same price.

These

From you this means a lot.

Also get some Rehband knee sleeves for those fucking clicking knees, dude. They work miracles.

it’s a patella tendon strap as someone else mentioned.

https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Tec-Athletics-Patellar-Tendon-Strap/dp/B004AOGA56?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Consider getting one of these.

http://www.amazon.com/Pro-Tec-Athletics-Patellar-Tendon-Strap/dp/B004AOGA56

I have that on and off. I stretch 2x per day with a focus on the Achilles and calf muscles. Also, I use this at night when I feel it flairing up: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0057M3TWC/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

1. Eccentric Strengthening 2x10 Daily:
   Leg extensions. Use both legs to extend then slowly control the weight back down with one leg. You don't have to go all the way to a locked knee if that irritates it.
   Single Leg squats. Lower yourself (slow,controlled) into a chair or bench using 1 leg. Use both legs to stand back up.
   Same thing on Leg Press.
   
   The weight should be very heavy (for a single leg). You should warm up well. I would sweat like crazy on these, especially the leg press. It's ok if it kind of hurts.
   
   
2. Cross Friction Massage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_IrZOtWqpg
   
   
3. Ice
   
   
4. http://www.amazon.com/Mueller-Jumpers-Knee-Strap-Red/dp/B000F5R4R2/ref=pd_sim_sg_2
   
   To hold the strap in place I've been putting it on over light under armor, pinching halfway up the shin then pulling the under armor over the strap so that the bottom of the under armor is holding up the strap.

Stretch your calfs hard a few times a day for a few weeks. It will go away.

YOFIT Foot Stretcher, Foot Rocker (Navy) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M72IX86/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_dPk7CbD4PTG0G

Bauerfiend Genutrains (though they're expensive). They're ridiculously comfortable, coming from someone who has torn a meniscus in one knee and has tendonitis in the other. The cheaper route would be UFlex Athetics' knee compression sleeve.

Genutrain: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0053VE1E2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
UFlex: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019ZK0WS0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If you're serious about the cheaty blue things, you can get them here:

http://www.jackalsgym.com/store.aspx?cat_id=RH

or here:

http://www.amazon.com/Rehband-7mm-Knee-Sleeve-Original/dp/B0088KPT50/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1425750584&sr=8-1&keywords=rehband

I use one of these when I get knee pain. I find it helps a lot.

I found them on Amazon here! I don't have major knee problems per se, but sometimes they feel a little wonky, so I just wear them for some added protection.

This is patellar tendonitis. Your muscles are most likely not developed enough to help support the strain on the tendon you're asking of them right now. I was dealing with patellar tendon pain for a while. I tried many many seat positions and cleat positions. I solved it by getting a patellar tendon strap. On kind of like this This worked very well in both alieviating pain riding and when not riding. Eventually I was able to push big gears long enough to develop the muscles in the legs that give some support the tendon and I no longer have knee pain from hard rides.

They're not SBDs, but I've had these for two years, wash them once a week, and they're still holding up:

https://www.amazon.com/Sleeves-Compression-Weightlifting-Powerlifting-CrossFit/dp/B00SW2O5M2/ref=sr_1_1?crid=15769MNB24PCL&keywords=nordic+knee+sleeves+for+weightlifting&qid=1565879731&s=gateway&sprefix=nordic+knee+sleeves%2Caps%2C140&sr=8-1

And relatively affordable at $40.

Also have an Inzer bodybuilding-tapered belt that's going on 3 years now. Only complaint is that I should have gotten a Small instead of a Medium (I fluctuate between the last three holes, depending on bulk/cut)

I use these: https://www.amazon.com/Sleeves-Compression-Weightlifting-Powerlifting-CrossFit/dp/B00SW2OB30/ref=sr_1_6_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1466024541&sr=1-6&keywords=knee+sleeve#Ask

Work as well as the Rehbands and run half the price. I have been using them for a little over six months now with no complaints.

I switched from Chucks to squat shoes and felt way more stable. It helped get rid of my knee pain as well. I also found that knee sleeves help reduce or avoid knee pain.

Maybe it’s different in my area, but I can buy them in the pharmacy section of most big box stores near me. Cheap enough I would bother to make my own. Here’s an Amazon.com link https://www.amazon.com/Futuro-Fasciitis-Stabilizing-Satisfaction-Guaranteed/dp/B0057M3TWC

So I had a bad ankle sprain back in Feb. The one thing I found was working it (stretching, walking, skating), helped immensely. Another thing I'd recommend is if you're not already, wear an ankle brace every time you lace up your skates. I use one similar to this. I refuse to skate without it because it makes a huge difference in my side-to-side mobility.

Lateral movement is going to be a bitch for a while though. Know your limits and don't push yourself too hard where you end up making it worse.

Good luck!

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so sounds similar to my experience. i finally went & got a 2nd opinion and the dr prescribed a sleeping boot. i had been battling pain for almost 2 years. i literally woke up the next morning after sleeping in a boot almost pain free. after a few weeks it was entirely gone. that was almost a year ago. i coulda cried i was so happy.

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