Reddit mentions: The best fire safety products

Yay that your boss went for an Amazon GC :) It's great of you to share!

I really, really want a second gen Nest Protect smoke alarm. Kind of pricey but you get what you pay for in a good way! It's the best selling smoke alarm on Amazon. The company makes really good advanced products. They have dual sensors and a carbon monoxide alarm. No other alarm has that. They interconnect with each other wirelessly, and talk to give you information. They alert your phone and have different color alerts, and more. (Actually, I really want 3 of these, but 1 would be a good start. What we have are so old and crappy that I don't trust them at all. They are the $10 kind, and I should have replaced them at least 3 years ago.) I think this is what people need to be safe.

I also want this professional stainless steel mandoline badly, either one of the versions available, because it's built tougher than the others that have plastic parts. The reviews are so good, and I think it would outlast two of the others, and be easier to use, so it would be very worth it. A lot of the others don't cut as evenly or are difficult to hold and move the fruit or vegetable. I want this for making healthy homemade snacks.

I really need the Levo Deluxe holder for tablets so I can see and use my ereader and old tablet while I'm flat on my back. I'm planning ahead and trying to get the items that will help during recovery from surgery and I won't be able to prop up my head or use the laptop or TV. It's a bit expensive, but this is the second generation one that works better. This holder seems better than all the other ones I've seen because this can suspend the tablet facing down from above. This can also be great for mounting the tablet when you're sitting on the couch or bed, or at a desk, like pictured, so I would use it regularly. (The non-deluxe version is $54.99 on Amazon. They also have a version that stands on the floor instead of clamping on a table.)

I also would be so happy to have the pink vibrator from my NSFW list. I am not linking to it because of it being NSFW. It came out last year and won an award for the unique motion it has. It has some great reviews, and I would love to try it. I think most women should try toys like this one, even if you're currently happy, maybe this would be better!

Another thing that would be extremely cool and useful to have is a portable scanner that is really light and small. Any that's good, but I have put this color mobile document scanner on my wishlist. It has better reviews than the Epson and it's currently cheaper because a seller has refurbished ones available. It's quick and has such good reviews. This will help prevent things from getting lost and cluttered when we are out of town or just out in the car. I think these are going to sell out before you get a chance to decide because Amazon is ranking it number one for mobile scanners. A few minutes ago, the seller had 3 left, and now they have 2 left. But it says "more on the way" so hopefully these can be backordered or gotten later.

> Speaking as an electrician

Thanks very much! That is good to hear coming from a professional. I was proud of my little workaround hack, but I have never read about it anywhere else so I wondered if I was missing something important... but it really does work (I've used it during a couple of outages now). One useful thing to do is to use a little label maker to label the relevant outlets inside the house with "GENERATOR", just to make clear that they aren't usually going to be working. It's also good to make sure that whatever extension cords you get for coming from the generator to the house inlets has a round end for where it's going into the inlet. Some extension cords have the additional tab sticking up which makes it hard or impossible to fit into the inlet socket. Kind of hard to describe, but you'd know exactly what I mean if you see the inlet. Unfortunately the ones I got don't seem to be available any more on Amazon, the product page has gone away, but they looked a lot like these:

https://www.amazon.com/ParkPower-Marinco-150BBI-RV-Charger-125-Volt/dp/B000NV0V8C/

And the extension cords for generator to inlet are these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009IAXSW/

Notice the female end of the extension cord is round, so it'll fit inside the inlet socket. I think I have the 100 foot and another 50 foot of the 10 ga, for getting from the generator on the rear deck to the two different inlets on the house. The garage one is a bit further away, toward the front of the house, so I need the 100' for that. Usually I'd try not to run so long, but when running the generator in an emergency I'd much prefer for it to be hidden in the rear of the house, not visible to the road. Being 10 ga gives me a bit more room to play with 100' length without losing too much power to the cord.

Other than those, it's a pretty standard job that anybody who's a little bit handy can do - you might also need a 1 7/8" hole saw for the inlet, assuming you have wood walls (we have cedar siding). I used something like 10 or 12 ga house wiring between the wall - I think it might be 10 ga since I remember hemming and hawing on which to use, I believe I went heavier just to be on the safe side. It's a bit intimidating for a non-professional to work with wiring stuff up, but since it's not connected to the actual house wiring, that takes some of the fear out. Just have to make sure you get all the right wires in the right places (not too difficult) and tighten everything up. Also a little bit stressful hacking holes in your exterior house wall, but once it's all sealed up again it's pretty cool knowing you can now get power inside without having to leave the window or door open.

I also have a Kryptonite Stronghold anchor in the back yard next to the deck, for chaining the generators up while they are running, so nobody can just pick them up and run off (a downside of having portable generators is that they are, well, portable):

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LF903M/

I dug a hole and then filled it with high stress concrete, then left it to dry for a week or two, then drilled the holes for the bolts and installed the anchor. For chain, I used the strongest stuff I could find at Home Depot. The padlock likewise - just the most beefy, secure one I could find. On the generators themselves, I have installed the security addition to the handle:

https://www.amazon.com/Honda-63230-Z07-010AH-EU2000i-Generator-Deterrent/dp/B004DQY6B6/

This doesn't make it 100% secure, but it's better than just having the plastic handle which is easily broken. Security is a matter of layers - you don't depend on anything being 100%, but you hope that everything will serve to either deter or else slow the thieves down enough so that either they don't try, or else you will be alerted in time to stop them.

Finally, I have a couple of failed circuit alarms, which go off when power is lost:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0077Q9NC6/

I figure these could be on the extension bar inside the house while the generator is in use, then if it goes off or is being stolen then I will get an alert when they unplug the extension cord. I am using one of these alarms in the garage now, for the chest freezer so I'll know if that circuit trips out for whatever reason (avoid thawed out freezer, never fun).

Anyway, hope that helps anyone else who might be thinking about a similar setup - the Honda EU2000i is a great little generator (I also have the Companion), and with a little forethought you can make it much easier to use in your house in emergencies. Oh, and one last thing - I also have a large folding plastic table, which can be used to put over the generator if it's raining outside when you need to use it. Obviously the generator can't be too near the house, because of risk of carbon monoxide, so being outside puts the generator at risk of exposure to the elements. One of those folding tables, you can get from any department store, is useful for putting the generator under something. If the rain is especially heavy, I can put an additional tarp over the table, which can also cover two sides, and a couple of cinder blocks makes it ok in the wind.

Incidentally, this is a good battery powered CO detector, great for emergencies if you need to run a Buddy heater inside the house, or make sure the generator exhaust isn't blowing inside:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Y6V5CI/

Some things I know I forgot:

• Fire Extinguishers. I had one in my one bedroom apartment in the kitchen, which was only about 10 steps away from anywhere else in the apartment. But houses are bigger, you need more. I keep one in the kitchen, garage and one in the basement near your electric panel and HVAC. Make sure the kitchen & garage ones are Class B. The basement one should be class C. I just played it save and bought these, they are class A,B & C.
  
• Light bulbs, your going to need so many more than your used to. My house has ceiling mounted lights in every room (not every house does). My house has over 48 light bulbs in it just for those ceiling mounted lights. I'm a huge fan of these light bulbs. Just a bit over $2 a bulb, very bright, nice clean daylight color and LED. Can't be beat.
  
• Also on the light bulb thing, think of any you need that aren't your standard bulb. Ceiling fans(Some use Candalabra size, some use normal), flood lights, etc etc. Personally I make sure every bulb in my house is the same color of light too. It really annoys me when I walk into a friends house and they have like 4 different color light bulbs in one room. That may just be my OCD though.
  
• You may need a basic tool box if you don't already have one. There isn't any more calling maintenance when a small job needs done. It's either you do it, or pay a handyman to do it for you. And you'll go broke paying a handyman for everything. YouTube will become your friend to learn things you don't know. You don't have to start off super fancy. An assortment of sizes of Philips and Flat Head Screwdrivers. Needle Nose and regular pliers. A socket set (get both standard and Metric). A hammer and rubber mallet. A level, a tape measure. Probably some allen wrenches. Some WD-40 and Duck Tape. That should get you started, you can pick up anything else when you actually need it. Check out estate sales and second hand stores. I've bought tons of great tools for pennies on the dollar. For example I just got an 8 foot aluminum level from a second hand store for $10 recently. The cheapest you can find those for new these days is $50.
  
• I've seen people meantion locks. I agree you should change them. That said, Kwikset makes a system called "smart key" where you can rekey your locks anytime yourself easily. I'd highly suggest those. That way if you ever need to change them, you just buy this and change the locks instead of physically having to change every door knob and dead bolt. Go ahead and keep one on hand.

> wanted to be able to run fridge and laptop for a week at least before on solar before I have to turn on the engine and drive to my next spot

A normal laptop (10-90W), a small fridge (100-400W), and a room heater (900-1500W+) are orders of magnitude apart. The only time I've heard of anyone using an electric heater when camping was when he had an over-abundance of gasoline-electrical generator output, but one probably wouldn't want to run a generator at night due to noise.

> do you think these buddy heaters are save enough for children to be in the same room

A lot of people use propane heaters in RVs. Of course having a CO (Carbon Monoxide) detector and a fire extinguisher on hand is a must, even if burning a single candle. That aside, the most important thing is to assure adequate ventilation. Extra super-safety measure: set an alarm every 2 hours the first night to walk around the room and make sure the air is fine, nothing is overheating, etc.

When it comes to the possibility of leaks, propane is generally safer than natural gas, because: (1) You can smell it. (2) Propane vapors are heavier than air, so being higher off the floor is an added safety benefit (in addition to being more heat-efficient). (3) Buddy Heaters self-ignite automatically, so there's no chance of turning on the gas and forgetting to light the flame. You can get a propane leak detector as well (a separate function from CO detection, but possible to have both in one device).

I don't know anything about kids, but I don't think they are inclined to touch things that are very obviously very hot. I guess using some sort of a cage (around the heater, I mean, not the kids) would add an extra level of safety...

Maybe it's just because I am a mom, but my go-to recommendations are always the things you reach for at 3am and then kick yourself for not having had the foresight to own.

• An absolute must is a pack of 9 volt batteries. It seems like no matter how frequently you check or swap the batteries in your fire alarms they will sing the song of their people in the middle of the night annually.
  
  
• Basic First Aid Kit, and a well stocked medicine cabinet. You can buy a kit like the one I linked, but I prefer to just pick out each item individually. Think of the things you frequently pulled out of the medicine cabinet when you were still living with your parents and start there.
  
  
• A fire extenguisher is a good thing to have. While you are at it, get one for your car as well.
  
  
• Night Lights so you don't stub your toe in the middle of the night.
  
  I don't want to type a novel here, so I will stop. Just think of the things you reached for without thinking while growing up. Start with the things you will use most often and those that are needed for real emergencies and go from there. Hope this helps and congratulations!

If you don't have the wood yet you might be in a pinch. I burn wood to heat our house all winter, but definitely not anywhere near -30c. How much wood depends on the type of wood. Each species has a different BTU rating. Some burn hot and fast others are low and slow. I tend to use both. I like Poplar to get the stove warm and Oak to bank it all night.

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I cut my own wood but if you don't you will need to be careful of sellers saying it is seasoned. A true seasoned piece of wood will be cut and split (generally) for a year. Some sellers will cut and split in the late spring/early summer and try to sell it in the winter. That won't cut it for most guys burning wood. I highly suggest investing into an inexpensive moisture meter. Split a piece of any wood that you are buying and test it. I try to burn at 20% or less.



Also, it might be really helpful for you to get a wall mounted propane heater. They are inexpensive (under $150 at the local big box store or on Amazon). Keep it on a thermostat to kick on if the wood fire goes out. Really helpful on punishing days. If you get the smaller 100 lb tanks you can take them to the filling station and have them filled cheaper than delivery.


Oh and get a carbon monoxide detector. If need to make sure you have enough fresh air in your house to support your wood burning stove and your ability to breathe!


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We got ours 4 years ago, I don't remember seeing combined detectors back then but to be honest I don't know that I would have ever looked. I WANTED a smart solution although when looking at the prices for these units now I found a ZWave compatible dual unit for $50... Definitely makes me reconsider what units to get when I convert my other ones...

Edit: For anyone interested here is the Z-Wave one

This is the polar opposite of SMD, but I thought I'd share my solution...

While I love DIY, smoke detectors are important. I wanted to interface with my home system but without compromising the integrity of the system.

Get a 120v first alert.
First Alert SA521CN Wireless Interconnected Hardwired Photoelectric Smoke Alarm with Battery Backup https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000EVO9D4

Get the smart relay interconnect.
BRK RM4 Smart Relay for First Alert https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0039PF21U
This includes schematic for wiring to the detector and the color codes for NO/NC relay connection.

~~Get an optocoupler or isolation relay. Mains Voltage! The output of the RM4 is 120V.
Enclosed AC/DC Power Relay with Protection & De-Bounce. Screw Terminals. 120V Trigger Input. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017743I7S
The RM4 output powers the relay. The screw terminals connect to the 8266.~~

Get a Esp8266; Flash tasmota firmware. Configure for switch and mqtt. Wire it up.
First Alert is now part of the matrix.

Quick update: Did not need the second relay/optocoupler. The BRK RM4 is an isolated relay. Their docs did not make that perfectly clear so I assumed worst case w/o testing it.

I standardized on Z-Wave and Zigbee stuff - more Z-Wave than Zigbee. I used a SmartThings hub in this house, and so I used these sensors. I put one under each sink in the house, plus one near the main stack in the basement and the hot water heater.

If I could, I'd also recommend adding a couple of HA CO/smoke sensors. Again, z-wave for me, but I used this First Alert model. If I get smoke or CO at any time, it alerts my phone, and I'm a huge fan of that.

One note on those smoke detectors - some places have highly specific laws on what smoke detectors you must legally have, and these do not match code where I live. I run double sets - one set that matches code and then this set for the HA side. It's not a problem to have more smoke/CO detectors, and it's a cheap and potentially life or property saving upgrade.

Thanks for all of the comments! Very helpful overall, I really appreciate it. One small point, though:

>Not positive on this point, but I think you must wait for the smoke to clear. I think the design idea is not not be tolerant of false alarms. If the Kidde SD detects smoke/CO, it is not wrong, shit's on fire.

We have a Kidde Nighthawk plugged in outside our master bedroom ... and invariably, whenever we host a party at our house and have 30-40 people over, the thing starts going off ... it's ridiculous. Fortunately, that one is easy enough to rip out of the outlet and pull it's battery out without going into the garage to retrieve a ladder ... so ... I'm naturally a bit cautious on how false alarms could be cancelled. This seems to be a known issue for Kidde - check out the number of false alarm reports on Amazon reviews, although it's on the GAS side (not CO).

It actually even false-alarmed once while we were away, traveling internationally (the Dropcam picked it up as an audio alarm).

>They have good ecosystem partners - the products I want/have in my house already anyway (Schlage, Lutron, GE, Chamberlain, etc.)

I love my Chamberlain MyQ - even without the GE Wink integration yet. The implementation just works well.

A fire extinguisher and a first aid kit. The day of moving in to my first place I sliced my finger badly opening a box. Bleeding every where. Couldn't find a thing to wrap it with (cause hey moving) needed 4 stitches. Definitely wish I had a first aid kit then.

Also a base ball bat or a golf club near the door. Lol I just felt safer knowing I had something close by to defend myself with.

I like surprises :)

You want a Mr Heater Buddy, man. Easy to use, safe, cheap to run, and it will keep you warm in a space much bigger than a van. Highly recommended.

EDIT: for safety, make sure you install a carbon monoxide detector.

I tried to figure that out when integrating my security system, but gave up and went with a Leeo instead. IFTTT triggers a virtual switch. As a bonus, I have it change colors to show whether the security system is active.

For your own safety you should have a carbon monoxide detector in your residence. Even if the apparent complex will not pay for it. Under $30 is worth the peace of mind.
I recommend the type that plugs in to the wall, like this one.
https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-KN-COPP-3-Nighthawk-Monoxide-Battery/dp/B00002N86A/ref=lp_495272_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1479592679&sr=1-1

This is just a few seconds of searching from a random internet stranger, but look for a few of these at your local wal-mart. Also, I always thought that CO was heavier than air, but apparently it is slightly lighter than air. This suggests that CO detectors should be placed rather high, on the ceiling if possible. If you're in doubt, just place one as high as possible - if you get a reading, use an extension cord as a temporary way of measuring the levels in different locations, high or low. (I'm not sure how quickly the sensors update, you may need to rig a way to hold the sensor in place for a few minutes, try these things.)

Best of luck to you and your friend! (Maybe get a detector for her as well... though it sounds like you're more affected than she is.)

Also, keep an eye out for /u/RBradbury1920, he left post-it notes for himself, it turned out to be a side effect of Carbon Monoxide poisoning. (Only 100 PPM, apparently.)

Edit: How close do you and your friend live? There might be something in the environment doing this to both of you, such as a gas leak or something. But if so, then other people might be noticing strange things as well....

Since you're in Peds ICU, I expect you'll already know to have one, but a decent first aid kit is one thing you don't want to be without. Also, a fire extinguisher. Hopefully you'll never need them!

Finally, I use this blender/chopper/whisk, in some form nearly every day, and this little slow cooker at least once a week :)

you're a big girl now!

I have two "Highest Priority" items. They seem to be two completely different things- but they are connected. You see, this is to keep my fake-face on.

As a female who wears makeup there is nothing more irritating than when you're doing whatever, you know, looking good.. and suddenly you look at your reflection in a window or something and you're like DAMN WHO LET MY REAL FACE OUT? And you gotta fix that! All that work you spent artfully painting on how your face looks to the public and within hours it's all faded and your eyeliner is halfway down your eyelids. In order to be able to fix it on-the-spot you're suddenly carrying around your whole makeup bag for touch-ups at dinner and when the occasional photographer walks by. Imagine you're out on a date with some hottie and you're like "hey sorry I have to go powder my nose", then you pick up your 3 gallon purse with every brush and gloss known to mankind (all only half-full, of course) and drag it off to the bathroom!

This is just safety standard to cool down after you look so hot for so long. (It can also be used as a blunt weapon to beat the hundreds of people you attract off of you)

^(Also, I am not confident in my baking/cooking abilities)

Edit: fixed first link thx Youjimbo

Awesome, thanks so much! So this guy? https://smile.amazon.com/Amerex-Chemical-Class-Extinguisher-Bracket/dp/B00F5CK9X6/

Really appreciate your insights!

> After setting—and squelching—more than 20 fires, we had a winner. We’d assumed an all-around, ABC- type extinguisher would top our list, given its versatility. But the winner’s virtues were undeniable. It stood out among the traditional models for being especially simple to operate and for its powerful, extremely controlled spray with spot-on aim that was remarkably efficient. It took just seven seconds to put out the grease fire and 21 seconds to completely snuff out the burning dish towel (and it’s not even rated for combustible material). What’s more, in each case I felt I had barely used any of the contents. This model came in neck and neck with an ABC extinguisher, which contains damaging monoammonium phosphate. While the choice between a destroyed home and a scarred stovetop is no choice at all, we felt every bit as safe with our favorite model, with its nondamaging sodium bicarbonate. When the smoke cleared, this extinguisher was our top choice for safety in the kitchen.




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Winner:
Kidde Kitchen Fire Extinguisher - $18.97

> Extremely fast, powerful, well-directed spray that quickly extinguished grease fire and burning towels, leaving a comfortable sense that plenty more spray was left in canister. Created noxious fumes and messy residue.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED:
Kidde ABC Dry Chemical Fire Extinguisher - $19.99

> Big, focused spray with spot-on aim that took only a few seconds to put out grease fire and towel fires. Forceful spray extinguished dish towel, then blew it off heat source. Created noxious fumes and left messy residue.

2 others ranked as RECOMMENDED:

• First Alert Kitchen Fire Extinguisher - $23.34
  
• First Alert Multipurpose Fire Extinguisher - $21.99
  
  
  3 others wee RECOMMENDED WITH RESERVATIONS:
  
  
• First Alert Tundra Fire Extinguishing Spray
  
• Buckeye Multipurpose Dry Chemical Fire Extinguisher
  
• Amerex 2 1/2-lb Multipurpose Fire Extinguisher
  
  
  3 others were NOT RECOMMENDED:
  
  
• Fireade 2000 Fire Extinguisher Spray
  
• Homehero Fire Extinguisher
  
• Fire Blanket Corporation's Fire Blanket
  

I don't get your question? Zwave is Zwave. Is pretty much the most prominent and pervasive home automation communication protocol. So yeah, it's interconnected?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00KMHXFAI/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496306974&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=zwave+smoke+detector&dpPl=1&dpID=41jC0IWtWgL&ref=plSrch

You add this to your network, and then use your hub/controller software to respond etc. If you're not American, then make sure you get the global one.

https://www.amazon.com/Amerex-Chemical-Class-Extinguisher-Bracket/dp/B00F5CK9X6/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=Amerex+B402&qid=1563352515&s=gateway&sr=8-3#feature-bullets-btf

Amerex B402 ?

Comments on this particular model?

And for those who are supporting the Amazon workers strike this week; any good / safe online store to buy Amerex from?

Just installed mine a few weeks ago. I haven't ran my heater with it yet though to see how much venting will be appropriate as I live in Phx and it's already heating up haha. But yea I have a mr heater buddy and hear they are great. I always keep a few books on hand. Couple traveling books (kerouac/hemingway/etc), something spiritual for when I'm in the woods (tao te ching) haha, something about astronomy, music theory, shit I can learn from.

I bought a combination of these two:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000YC535Q/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EVO7C2/

I like how they interconnect with each other so that if any of them alert, they all alert. It also has voice alert to tell you where and what type of hazard there is.

I installed 1 combo Carbon Monoxide on each floor of my house, and then the straight smoke detectors in almost every other room.

Yikes. Always make sure your hot water heater and furnace are properly vented to outside, and remember that a $25 device can save your life. For maximum peace of mind, place a carbon monoxide detector in the main living area and in each bedroom.

I say split it. Canvas tent and a mr Heater.

Grab one of these.
http://www.kodiakcanvas.com/10-x-14-ft-flex-bow-vx-tent/

And get a buddy heater. That’s what I do. Also get a CO detector that runs on batteries.

Mr. Heater F232000 MH9BX Buddy 4,000-9,000-BTU Indoor-Safe Portable Propane Radiant Heater https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002G51BZU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_rGJ3BbEGK272F

First Alert CO400 Carbon Monoxide Detector, Battery Operated https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000N8OYXI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_dHJ3Bb65YD12X

On super cold nights I’ll let it run, but usually I operate it to keep the ten warm while I’m awake at night getting in my bag or in the morning when I wake up to warm up before I get dressed.

Used this setup in 20deg F camping with my two kids and wife. Heater can more than keep up. Also comes with a tip sensor and Ox sensor. But can always use a backup.

A fire extinguisher. You probably won't ever use it, but if you do need it someday, it will be well worth the 20 bucks.

EDIT: Yes, you can get a decent one for the home for under $20.

EDIT PART 2: Aaaaahhhhh thanks for the gold! You just made my night! :D

Nest protects Barely Go on Sale. I've seen Protects go for ridiculously cheap at walmart, but thats cuz they were discontinuing the stock on shelf. Aside from that, Protect go $80 to $100 average on Ebay/Offerup/Craigslist. If you aren't a nest Fan Boy, you can go with a $30 First alert Zwave smoke/carbon alarm. https://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-Z-Wave-Detector-Monoxide/dp/B00KMHXFAI I was looking at the insurance Discount, but for Us, Liberty mutual had a higher Monthly rate, didn't justify the swap just for a smoke detector.

Here, try this CO detector. I feel like this would be a good option for now and to save for later.

Bought one of these half racks in great shape for $100: https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/fitness-gear-2017-pro-half-rack-16fgeufgprhlfrckxgmu/16fgeufgprhlfrckxgmu.

 

Good rack, but the standard J hooks were covered in a nasty rubber that created rubber dust when the bar slid against it. Decided to cover the J hooks in UHMW instead.

 

Materials needed:

12x12x1/4" UHMW sheet (don't buy less than 1/4" thickness since you are going to be countersinking the screw holes): https://www.amazon.com/Molecular-Polyethylene-Standard-Tolerance-Thickness/dp/B00CPRDLAW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1493150072&sr=8-3&keywords=uhmw

Drill/drill bits

Phillips #2 screwdriver

Countersink bit (1/2" works well, something similar to this would be fine, it doesn't have to be a titanium coated bit since you're only counter sinking the uhmw): https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000F3SI2O/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1493158184&sr=1-7&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Countersink+bit&dpPl=1&dpID=51fQXRD5ZuL&ref=plSrch

A tap (I used 12-24 NC)

4 machine screws (I used 12-24 x 1/2")

Jigsaw or hacksaw (for cutting the UHMW)

 

Drill pilot holes in the J hooks, then run a tap through it to create threads for the screws. Go slow with the tap and use oil when tapping the threads. Cut the UHMW sheet to size with a saw. I tried using a hacksaw, but a jigsaw created much cleaner and straighter edges. Once the UHMW pieces are cut to fit your rack's J hooks, drill and countersink the screw holes in the UHMW. Attach the UHMW with the machine screws and you're done! UHMW doesn't work well with adhesives, so using screws is a more secure method of mounting the pads.

 

Once you've tapped the screw holes in the J hooks, it's very easy to replace the UHMW if it ever wears out. Just unscrew the old UHMW pads and attach a new pair.

would these work well for building a forge out of? I'm not finding them in town so I think these for $15 (+$5 shipping) would do well for me if they are the correct type that I'd need.

Your prompt reply would be greatly appreciated.

Ours are very similar. One in each bedroom (3 of them). One in the hallway that covers the living room and kitchen. One in the garage. One in the basement outside the laundry room and utility room.

Best of all, if one goes off, they all go off. This is the main unit I got. The others don't talk. Oh, and they are loud as all get out. My neighbors hear them when they go off. Which I guess is a good thing.

I have toyed with this idea too, but I think a better option would be to make a larger forge with fire bricks like this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Delphi-Glass-Fire-Brick-Pack/dp/B00JMH53GS/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1498066584&sr=8-13&keywords=fire+brick

and make a frame out of angle iron or whatever to keep all the bricks together and secure the torch in position.

I just bought this one after reading this. (Not an affiliate link, but using the smile URL for the charity donation.)

I have a Kidde as well. It is very highly ranked on Amazon with thousands of positive reviews. this one

interesting! here in germany, you get only counter sink bits, but they are solid in the middle and you can not put a drillbit through them. (like this: http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-CST1-2-Inch-Titanium-Countersink/dp/B000F3SI2O/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1407663444&sr=1-2&keywords=countersink+bit)

any clue what to search for an amazon or somewhere else to buy such tools?

all I can find on amazon is in this imperial system, not metric. any clues where to get these?

And get a good clean agent one. Otherwise it leaves even more of a mess to clean up (I learned the hard way how a standard extinguisher gets powder EVERYWHERE). Get something like this one.

It honestly depends where you live, such as a tenants union that you can research and pursue follow up. For example, this is Seattles: http://www.tenantsunion.org/en . I think it comes down to how much effort you want to deal with this. Do you have natural gas coming in to your place? If not it really may not be worth it. If you're very concerned, you need immediately remedy, and the landlord is dragging their feet, here's one from Amazon from $20 https://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-CO400-Battery-Monoxide/dp/B000N8OYXI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1475004662&sr=8-2&keywords=c02+detector

Looks like Amazon has one for $20: https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-FA110-Purpose-Extinguisher-1A10BC/dp/B00002ND64/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491037355&sr=8-1&keywords=fire+extinguisher

Are you okay? Is the food okay?

If you rent, I recommend buying one you can plug-in (it has a battery backup too). It also has an optional longer cord if you want to plug it into a power strip or something and place it on a counter/table. This one got praise from Consumer Reports and when you move you can take it with you.

http://amzn.com/B000Q5VMKG

I did quite a bit of research looking for the same thing. In the end I decided it was important to keep this safety system separate, using reliable names such as First Alert -- you can interconnect them via. existing home wiring or wireless ... just buy the same brand. I bought these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000EVO9D4?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

But I want the benefits of notifications when smoke alarm trigger (lights turn on, text messages, etc) so I installed this zwave device beside one of them that listens for the sound of an alarm. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071Z8NM8N?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

So far, no false alarms, but testing any one of the smoke detectors will reliably trigger this zwave device. Plus, it costs far less than Nest Protect or even Roost, and doesn't rely on a third party cloud.

I have two nest thermostats, and Nest's cloud platform is so terribly limiting that I get angry every time I think about them. After what Google did to Revolv, I'm not buying any more home automation hardware from Google or Nest.

Unfortunately, it seems like Nest is the best on the market at the moment. I'm hoping First Alert can fix some of the issues with their onelink detectors (https://www.amazon.com/Onelink-Carbon-Monoxide-Battery-HomeKit-enabled/dp/B00R9O328M) or that Kidde comes out with a Wifi detector that doesn't require a cloud integration.

Looks great! Careful with propane in an enclosed space. Perhaps consider getting a CO and flammable gas detector maybe.

I know you're going to get a Carbon Monoxide detector, but I also recommend (just to keep things compact) getting a combination CO/Smoke detector. You can get multi-packs as well to put in different areas of your house. You should have one in the bedroom, hallway, kitchen, etc... depending on size of the place.

WeatherTech are really nice and durable. This would be the first thing I put in my truck. You might want to do a gift certificate if you don't know the model/year/etc.

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Also a fire extinguisher - I have this one: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TPOU2W/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Again, it's a bit pricey so you might want to just contribute to the truck fund and let him supply the rest of the $$$

I've got that list covered but somehow neglected a carbon monoxide detector. Bunch of well-reviewed ones on Amazon for under $40 and well worth it. Just snagged a plug-in model with battery backup.

Thanks for the reminder!

Yes, I normally run 20-48 hour prints. This just lets me sleep a little better. On top of all this I also have it in a spare room and a fire extinguisher as you enter the room, please additional WiFi some detector above the machine.

Installed inside the case and house.

First Alert 2-in-1 Z-Wave Wireless Smoke Detector & Carbon Monoxide Alarm, Battery Operated https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KMHXFAI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Avh1CbQQXDE1J

> The elevated temperatures of the cast iron is supposed to also allow a more complete combustion of the propane, which further reduces the CO concern.

Unburnt hydrocarbons (which could make the food taste bad) may be a bigger concern than CO. However, it doesn't hurt to be safe, so you can always get a CO detector if it adds to your piece of mind.

its like a smoke detector, just stick it in there around head level :) Mine sits on counter near my bed.

First Alert Z-Wave Smoke & Carbon Monoxide Detector

Sends me a text message if they go off when I am not home - I have 3 and they work good.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KMHXFAI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I like it raw like u/overlyapologeticguy

Protection: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01LTICQYE/?coliid=I2BXJ3ECA86AFL&colid=5JSIIC863OTV&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it (currently $21.99 with prime)

To put one in every room and location needed in my house would cost 900 dollars. Not worth it.

Want the notifications, get 1 LEEO monitor for each floor.

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I make a living putting the wet stuff on the hot stuff. The proper placement of smoke alarms is worth far more than the cute functions of the nest--and my whole house is automated.

Leeo Smart Alert Smoke/CO Remote Alarm Monitor for iOS and Android https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XMX4GUC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_jzFgybBF9THW6

Well one of my big necessities is a smoke carbon monoxide detector. The only one I can find on the market is this one. I don't particularly care for this, and would like other options. Even on Apple's site this is the only one they show. Maybe there are more, but I'm not seeing it. If you know of any I would like to be informed.

I think you may find some takers for your solution, especially with people who aren't familiar or comfortable with natural gas. However, how is your idea different from what's already available on the market? What does your idea bring to the table the current products on Amazon don't?

https://www.amazon.com/Topvico-Z-Wave-Water-Shutoff-Automation/dp/B0731B14B2

https://www.amazon.com/Nighthawk-Monoxide-Explosive-Model-KN-COEG-3/dp/B0002EVNJ6

1. Take one of the screws out.
   
2. Buy an appropriate countersink, like this one for a drill, or this one which is a hand tool.
   
3. Watch this video for technique.

> How are private ambulances comparable to private firefighters?

They both provide life-saving services and require expensive equipment to fulfill their job.

> Is that $150 hydrant up to American code?

What's the American code? And how much does it cost to bring $150 hydrant up to the "American code"? I'm pretty sure it's not $8850.

> A smart watch costs hundreds. And you have to charge it nearly every day. And you need to be connected to WiFi, or have a cell plan, which is extra. What if the power goes out?

A smartwatch does a lot more than what the smoke detector needs to do. A top-of-the-line smart smoke detector costs $100, that's petty change in comparison to the cost of a $200,000 home.

And if the power goes out, then it's a signal for the fire department to give you a call to check if everything is OK.

> The private firefighters.

Since Building B has property insurance, the private firefighters would show up to put out the fire. And depending on the circumstances, the property insurance of Building B may cover damages to neighboring buildings. Most property insurances have liability coverage for damages to third parties.

wow brings back some memories, we used to have this https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-KN-COPP-3-Nighthawk-Monoxide-Battery/dp/B00002N86A/ref=pd_sbs_60_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=0KB8PPW6RE4FYF346NZR
in an old house I lived in and it went off once when a neighbor was doing construction and had a large generator running all day

I use a battery powered household one. Probably not as good as an aviation specific one, but it's $20 and better than nothing.

https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-Battery-Operated-Carbon-Monoxide-Digital/dp/B004Y6V5CI/

Yes, I’ve looked at the Insteon smoke bridge. But as you say, the selection of compatible products isn’t great, and the features and compatibility are confusing and poorly documented.

For example, First Alert seems to offer only a single hardwired device with ONELINK, the First Alert SA521CN. But the SA521CN is only a smoke detector, it doesn’t detect CO. I could pair this with a unit which does do smoke+CO like the First Alert SCO501CN-3ST -- but that unit isn’t hardwired so it does me no good.

Then there are First Alert devices which are “interconnected” but lack ONELINK. For example the BRK SC9120B is a hardwired smoke+CO detector which is “interconnected” but lacks ONELINK. Maybe I could buy one of these and pair it with a SA521CA to give ONELINK capability? :(

Z-wave battery operated ones exist from FirstAlert, but why they don't make a hardwired version is beyond me.

Maybe the Leeo will work for you? Yes it's a detector for your detector.
https://shop.leeo.com/pages/about-leeo-smart-alert

The Smartthings community seems to talk about it:
https://community.smartthings.com/t/leeo-smart-alert-integrate-non-z-wave-smoke-detectors-with-st/56697

Keep a fire extinguisher in your kitchen. Important note: make sure it's the right type (Type A,B and C fires) This is a basic one on amazon.

Second note: Its VERY important you keep it by the door you're most likely to run through and NOT by the stove. Because your first instinct will be to step towards the door and by the time you think to use an extinguisher it's entirely possible your access to it will be blocked by the fire. So always put it towards the nearest exit. Or one by each exit to be extra safe.

I just want him and everyone who takes advantage of musicians/artists to go away.

Or be a human being and take some of the money you are collecting/stealing and buy $200 worth of fire prevention equipment from Amazon. A fire extinguisher is $20. A fire blanket is $12. Our safety is a collective effort. Nobody has any excuses especially those who are profiting from this community.

Buddy, sorry, you are right it is $44 for a ZWave smoke/CO that can do everything you said:

First Alert 2-in-1 Z-Wave Smoke Detector & Carbon Monoxide Alarm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KMHXFAI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_89B2BbM9YCP3R

But hey, if you really love the Protect, buy it, just don’t be disillusioned by it. It’s not special and it’s way overpriced.

All of this is stored in the trunk of my Jeep strapped down in the black tote pictured. I didn't get all of these things at Amazon, but tried to find a link to purchase everything.

Not pictured is a rollbar mounted fire extinguisher

This isn't specifically for camping, just what I have on me at all times.

Starting at the top right:

• Three pack of road triangles
  
  
• Solar power bank
  
  
• Leatherman Super Tool 300 in black oxide
  
  
• Cyber Power inverter
  
  
• Bungee cords
  
  
  
• Ratchet and random sockets
  
  
  
• Ratchet strap
  
  
  
• Jumper cables
  
  
  
• 30,000 tow strap
  
  
  
• Target brand first aid kit
  
  
  
• Coast px20 with red beam
  
  
  
• Coghlans right angle flashlight
  
  
  
• Eton solar/ crank radio and light
  
  
  
• Tire pressure gauge
  
  
  
• Digital tire pressure gauge
  
  
  
• Military issue folding shovel
  
  
  
• 7 ton shackle permanently borrowed from my ship
  
  
  
• 75ft of paracord
  
  
• Harbor Freight wrench set
  
  
• Harbor Freight torque wrench
  
  
• 20'x20' blue tarp
  
  
  

Gonna risk the /hailcorporate tag but now is a good a time as any to stock up on CO detectors. MA code mandates at least one for every floor in your house (seems a bit overkill since CO doesn't rise) but one near your furnace is a bare minimum

Kidde KN-COPP-B-LPM

Z-wave smoke/CO2 detector:

https://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-Z-Wave-Detector-Monoxide/dp/B00KMHXFAI ($44.96 Free Shipping for Prime Members)

Looks like it's the same one I bought from Amazon, or at least it mentions the G in the product description. It paired up just fine with Abode.

Why wait? You might forget. Here is the top rated one on Amazon and at $20 it's a fair price. http://www.amazon.com/Kidde-KN-COPP-B-LPM-Battery-Operated-Monoxide-Digital/dp/B004Y6V5CI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406035532&sr=8-1&keywords=carbon+monoxide

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Y6V5CI/


Just got a separate meter for my bedroom. Thanks for the reminder!

Hi princessimpeach, I think this is mighty important. It has been in my Household wishlist since November and I really could have used it last week.

my lie? I'm named after a song by either Bob Dylan, Stevie Nicks, or Hall and Oates. You decide which one is the lie ;-)

I have no idea about heal tolerances, but I found one that wirelessly connects to others, so if one goes off they all go off. I hooked up 3 of these in my house that doesn't have any hardwired smoke detectors.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0064S9IQ4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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EDIT: Alternatively, you could get one of these which connects to smartthings hub, so if it goes off you could get notifications on your phone. I actually bought 3 of these as well:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KMHXFAI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Just buy a Propane/Natural gas detector and plug it in near the kitchen area. It will help you avoid any situation like this in the future. Something such as this may work https://www.amazon.com/Nighthawk-Monoxide-Explosive-Model-KN-COEG-3/dp/B0002EVNJ6/

The Kidde Nighthawk has a nice LED readout you can see from across the room.

AC powered with a 9V battery backup.

Try this one.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kidde-408-900-0113-02-amp-Explosive-Alarm-9V/dp/B0002EVNJ6/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1449526651&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=explosive+gas+detector

You should also be able to get the First Alert locally.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/FIRST-ALERT-EXPLOSIVE-GAS-CARBON/dp/B000H2651Y/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1449526651&sr=8-3-fkmr1&keywords=explosive+gas+detector

You can get one for like $20 on Amazon

They have that on SOOO many things. Like this item.

I just got one of these battery guys for my kid's room, I wonder if there's any reason it wouldn't work in an aircraft? It's reasonably compact and like twenty bucks

https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-Battery-Operated-Monoxide-KN-COPP-B-LPM/dp/B004Y6V5CI/

I had the exact same issue, I lost about $200 worth of stuff. After searching for a project to make, I found these and just took the easy way out.
I bought 3: freezer, refrigerator, sump pump.

I JUST installed three of these--one on each floor of my house. Combination smoke detector + carbon monoxide detector. $32 each on AMZN:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PC5S0PA/

After installation, I pressed the button to test it, and it beeps loud A.F and then a female voice says "smoke detected" or "carbon monoxide detected". Freaking awesome.

These are in a crate in the trunk:

• Collapsible shovel
  
• Mylar blankets
  
• road flares
  
• flashlights
  
• ponchos
  
• fix-a-flat
  
• fire extinguisher
  
• jumper cables
  
• Warning Triangles
  
• Compressor
  
• Duct tape
  
• First aid kit
  
• Large warm blanket
  
• Bottled water
  
• Granola bars
  
• Cat liter
  
• Paper towels
  
  These are located in the passenger cabin:
  
• paper towels
  
• A flashlight
  
• Multi-Tool
  
• Auto escape tool
  
• Tire pressure gauge
  
• knit gloves
  
  During winter I'll put an ice scraper and de-icer in the car/trunk. There are kits you can buy and add items as you see fit. Take the time (unlike me with the shovel) to understand how to use each item properly in an emergency situation. Also don't wait until you need to change a flat to learn how.

An ABC or ABCK fire extinguisher is the best option for putting out a Lithium-Ion fire.

A good ABC fire extinguisher:

https://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-1038789-Standard-Extinguisher/dp/B01LTICQYE/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1RVQXSBJVEACY&keywords=abc+fire+extinguisher&qid=1572914686&sprefix=ABC+fire%2Caps%2C179&sr=8-1

Jeez, yeah, theyre not expensive. And check with your renters/homeowners insurance, sometimes they give you a discount for having one.

https://smile.amazon.com/Kidde-FA110-Purpose-Extinguisher-1A10BC/dp/B00002ND64/

This First Alert smoke/carbon dioxide detector is nice.

Assuming you are using Z-Wave:

Hard-wired Interconnected, Z-Wave Smoke/CO detectors don't exist to my knowledge. First Alert has one that has wireless interconnections.

You could get creative with some cheap door contacts and utilize the on-board alarm relays of conventional smoke/co detectors.

I think the best return on your money is figuring out what is causing the false alarms.

Some guidelines that deal with common false alarms:

• Kitchens, Bathrooms, the areas immediately outside kitchen/bathrooms, Furnace/Boiler Rooms - Use Heat and CO detection only.
  
• Move any smoke detector that is in path of any air supply vents or returns.
  
• Large temperature swings can cause false alarms in most detectors (front of doors leading to the outside or garage).
  
• Having detectors in areas that get below freezing or above 100F.
  
• If you have an open floor plan, that complicates smoke/air propagation from the kitchen and bathrooms.

Have you considered SafeAwake?

Personally, I have First Alert ZCOMBO and a separate Z-wave strobe/siren.

Do what I do and carry a CO2 monitor in your prius and you'll be fine. I've never had it go off in almost a year of running the engine (for the AC) every night.

Here's the one I've been using: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Y6V5CI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Could get one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002EVNJ6/ref=pd_aw_sim_sbs_60_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=YF6H53CQS681TN95DC88&dpPl=1&dpID=81tK5mgXK7L

That sensor will trip at 25% of the LEL (lower explosive limit) for methane, which should be plenty of warning.

Since the primary concern with natural gas is explosions, here are some things to keep in mind when placing the sensor:

1. You want it to be placed as close to the gas source as possible. This is because higher concentrations will be near the source of gas before it gets diluted into the rest of the room.
   
2. You want to place the sensor low to the ground. This is because natural gas is heavier than air, so it will tend to collect and travel near the ground.

They have a wired version as well: http://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-SA521CN-Interconnected-Hardwire/dp/B000EVO9D4/ref=pd_sim_60_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=41uKzhkqyXL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=058RS7TT7CC15YB6G704

Well, there is of course the Nest Protect, which is wifi-based. No web interface, and requires their app to set up. It can be configured out of the box to email you alerts, and the alert settings are configurable (email vs text vs app notification, and for which alerts/conditions).

There is also the First Alert Smoke/CO Combo, which is Z-Wave based. Again, no web interface. You would rely on your hub for configuring your notifications.

That's why you keep a fire extinguisher in your car. It's really an awesome idea. The dry chemical kind are what they use at race tracks most of the time, and I can say from experience your car will usually run after a bit of cleaning (had a fuel line barb work its way out of a carburetor).

My one buddy told me, "You'll never think you need it until you're watching your car burn and standing there with your dick in your hand."

Do you have any sort of hub or smart home devices already?

Or just you bought some new alarms and trying to make them work?

Edit: are these the ones you are talking about?
First Alert 2-in-1 Z-Wave Smoke Detector & Carbon Monoxide Alarm https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KMHXFAI/

You can get one for $15 online. Worth it.

A fire extinguisher and a basic first aid kit. Two things that EVERYBODY should have in their car. It could save a life.

I got about 60 of the 1 lb canisters and 2 of the 20 lb tanks in one of these deck boxes:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Rubbermaid-73-gal-Medium-Deck-Box-with-Seat-FG5F2100OLVSS/202523344

The two 20 lbs go in a corner each, and then the 1 lbs are arranged around them on the floor. Then I cut a piece of plywood in the shape of the inside of the deck box, with cutouts for the two 20 lb tanks, to make a second story which is laid on top of the first layer of 1 lb canisters. Then I get a second layer of the 1 lbs in there, and it's about 60 of those plus 2 x 20 lbs, makes approx 100 lbs total, give or take. It's been a couple of years now, and they seem to last very well in there. I also keep some adaptors and hoses so I can hook the 20 lbs up to the Little Buddy heaters and the propane stove etc. I keep the deck box on the lower deck behind the house in a spot under the upper deck so that it doesn't get a lot of direct sunlight. I think it's probably better if it doesn't get too hot. Also, if anything leaks, then propane is heavier than air, so you want the path to be away from the house, not down into your crawlspace or basement. Finally I recently got a "WARNING PROPANE" sticker (from Amazon) for the firemen should there ever be a fire around my house. They should know about that amount of propane, for obvious reasons.

One last thing: Consider getting a couple of battery powered carbon monoxide detectors, just for peace of mind, e.g.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Y6V5CI/

Amazon has them for $40.
http://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-Z-Wave-Carbon-Monoxide/dp/B00KMHXFAI

Worse case scenario, your computer can literally catch on fire and it can spread like any other fire. The better the PSU, the lesser the chance for anything catastrophic. However, even super crappy PSUs are unlikely to catch fire. When a high quality PSU fails, most likely the only thing that will happen is the PSU itself stops working. When a low quality PSU fails, it might take some other parts with it, but probably won't catch on fire. So your PSU is very unlikely to actually catch on fire, but it never hurts to be prepared. You can buy a cheap fire extinguisher from amazon for like 15-20 bucks and just keep it near your desk. For example: This traditional extinguisher or something smaller/easier to use Hope this helps.

$30 - https://www.amazon.ca/First-Alert-CO400-Battery-Monoxide/dp/B000N8OYXI/

At the 2100ppm level the fire department measured an adult has over an hour to get out to clean air, a child has less, but that alarm would have certainly given a heads up, especially if you hear all of your neighbours having them go off in the hallway at the same time.

Amazon.
And read up on this:
https://www.osha.gov/doc/outreachtraining/htmlfiles/extmark.html

Brand is less important than having one meant for the type of fire you're going to put out.
If you order that one, please don't use it on people.

the wikipedia article on the topic is really informative.

I used something like this Failed Circuit Alarm (New Style) by CSH Incorporated https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0077Q9NC6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ALhBDbEJNK43W

It isn't a smart setup but you'll definitely hear when the freezer loses power

This -- One that shows a "peak ppm" reading actually. That way you can see if it spiked since last reset and cleared before you got to check it. http://smile.amazon.com/First-Alert-CO615-Monoxide-Plug-In/dp/B000Q5VMKG

294,290 fire extinguishers from Amazon, to combat the fire in the Amazon:
(Number 1 best seller)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LTICQYE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_n-UyDbA1AKWQK

> Kidde-KN-COEG-3-Nighthawk-Monoxide-Explosive

http://www.amazon.com/Kidde-KN-COEG-3-Nighthawk-Monoxide-Explosive/dp/B0002EVNJ6

You need the /dp/# at the end, you can put what ever you want beforehand actually.

http://www.amazon.com/this-will-still-take-you-to-the-alarm-thingi/dp/B0002EVNJ6

Amerex B402, 5lb ABC Dry Chemical Class A B C Fire Extinguisher, with Wall Bracket https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F5CK9X6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_MMVlDbAMBRZD4

Like that?

Just don't leave your computer on unattended. And have one of these handy: https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-FA110-Purpose-Extinguisher-1A10BC/dp/B00002ND64/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1483651703&sr=8-3&keywords=fire+extinguisher

Right. I have one that plugs into an outlet, with a battery backup, but my outlets are more toward floor level.

This is the one I have:
https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-KN-COPP-3-Nighthawk-Monoxide-Battery/dp/B00002N86A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1491400612&sr=8-2

You need to find one that has a reading I think.

Un-shortened URL: https://www.amazon.com/Nighthawk-Operated-Monoxide-Digital-KN-COPP-3/dp/B00002N86A

You should really invest in some carbon monoxide detectors.

It seldom snows where I live. So I'd make a snowman out of dirt/mud, then spray him with a fire extinguisher to make him white, fluffy and snowy!

Just buy a kitchen extinguisher

https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-FA110-Purpose-Extinguisher-1A10BC/dp/B00002ND64/

1. Multitool
   
   
2. Fire extinguisher
   
   
3. Solar panel portable charger
   
   
4. Telescoping keyring pen
   

This is what I currently have two of
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00002ND64/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

One is mounted on the rear roll bar, the other is underneath my driver seat, really wedged in there.

Probably one of these too

USA Today article on same topic but from another viewpoint.

You should have one detector for each floor that has people sleeping there. They're $20 on Amazon, just buy a couple more and you'll be set.

Anyone with a fireplace should buy this for their house:

http://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-CO615-Monoxide-Battery/dp/B000Q5VMKG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1463586329&sr=8-2&keywords=monoxide

Supposedly ,the Kidde KN-Copp-B-LPM goes down to 11.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004Y6V5CI/ref=twister_B00I0BSD5K

they are very cheap.

https://www.amazon.com/Amerex-Chemical-Class-Extinguisher-Bracket/dp/B00F5CK9X6/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?keywords=5+lb+amerex&qid=1563373091&s=gateway&sr=8-4

Can't turn it off, but it can be silenced: https://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-Z-Wave-Detector-Monoxide/dp/B00KMHXFAI

https://smile.amazon.com/First-Alert-Detector-Carbon-Monoxide/dp/B00KMHXFAI/

Last time I bought one (December) Amazon shows I paid $26 for this one.

I gave up on these. I took all of them out and replaced them with combo Smoke / CO2 detectors that are linked to my SmartThings hub as part of my home automation. I can now see the battery status in real time as well as silence alarms. I also get notifiers to my smartphone so if "something" happens while I'm not home I know about it.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KMHXFAI/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Not so much, this one is $25.

If you are buying smoke detectors, look for the smoke / carbon monoxide combos.

Such as this one for $25 on Amazon

You should also consider Leeo

I just installed 2 of these First Alert Z-Wave smoke and carbon monoxide combo models that are reporting battery level and alarm status.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KMHXFAI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have two First Alert Z-Wave smoke/CO detectors - 30% of the Nest price with essentially the same functionality.

The SmartThings "Notify Me When" SmartApp can send SMS messages to any phone worldwide when any smoke alarm triggers.

Hey sorry, was building a fence today.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0002EVNJ6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_StskDbB6HG5J3

I have three of these, one on each level of my house. http://www.amazon.com/Kidde-KN-COPP-B-LPM-Battery-Operated-Monoxide-Digital/dp/B004Y6V5CI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405998065&sr=8-1&keywords=carbon+monoxide+detector
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$60 bucks total, and I don't even feel terrified reading this thread.

It's this one here. Larger one doesn't look like it would fit. Kidde FA110 Multi Purpose Fire Extinguisher 1A10BC, 1 Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00002ND64/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_sQTnzbXZHSZA1

Glad that you're all right! Yeah, CO is very scary because you won't know what hit you until it's too late. Get at least one for each floor of your house, particularly the basement. This is the model I have in my house. It's pricier than those that are battery only, but after having a few CO alarms scare the shit out of me with their beeping (which was just to indicate that the battery is low), I prefer those that can be plugged in, AND have a numeric counter so I'll know whether it's really CO or just the the backup battery that needs to be replaced.

First Alert (very common manufacturer of detectors) has a zwave alarm for $39 on amazon. I think contractor grade alarms are $10, so not a huge cost....at least compared to going with Nest.

I lost everything when my house burned down completely, so I'm a bit more paranoid about it than the avg. person. Fire marshal said that it had started hours before it was reported (I lived in area with 1/2 acre lots, so neighbors weren't exactly close, but weren't far either). Now I have the option to call a neighbor and ask them to go check on things if I get an alert.

https://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-Z-Wave-Detector-Monoxide/dp/B00KMHXFAI/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WAQcQuARU8

Basically, the water instantly vaporizes into steam, and creates a steam + burning oil fireball.

Everyone should have one of these in their kitchen, just in case. They're a pain to buy from Amazon, though, because of the shipping restrictions. Every hardware store carries them.

SmartThings uses ZigBee too! One example of a Z-Wave device not working for me on the Wink is the First Alert Smoke and Carbon Dioxide Detector, and I have three of them. I tried adding one yesterday to test it out again, and it said under the Wink Hub menu that it was a "Failed Node" and only gave me the option to replace or delete it. Even on the Amazon page, it says it's not compatible with Wink.

Removing trim (not me, just the video I used): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR6Hv_o3YcU

Mounting bracket: http://amazon.com/gp/product/B00002NC0N

Extinguisher: http://amazon.com/gp/product/B00002ND64

Used a combination of #10 and 1/4" pan head fasteners, fender washers, normal washers, and nylon insert lock nuts and it feels rock solid.

Only one way to find out..

But seriously, get yourself a full size all purpose extinguisher..

This fire extinguisher. Seriously, I looked around my house a couple days ago, and realized I didn't have one at all. It is now a definite need for me, and I really want it as a result. It is literally a must have.

My username is initials and age when I made my first account using that username!

If you want a CO Detector you can get a battery powered one. Main worry would be: you're asleep in a parking lot/festival area (Walmart/rest area), someone pulls up next to you, they fire up their generator (somehow that doesn't wake you up; ear plugs/alcohol), exhaust goes straight in your window, you die. All of this is way low change probability but it has happened and people have died.

https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-Battery-Operated-Monoxide-KN-COPP-B-LPM/dp/B004Y6V5CI

Fan

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GZMMH7K

Lights - lots of USB lights out there. You can power them and the fan off a powerbank if you want or go to something a little bigger like a GoalZero yeti. If you're getting a DC fridge I'd install an auxiliary/house/leisure battery setup otherwise there are probably less complicated solutions. I've wanted to do a house battery but it has been too involved so far to get done.

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Has anyone used an alarm like this one to detect gas? Won't help with the argon, but it would work for propane. I wonder if there is one that would send a text?

An incomplete burn sounds to be rare and relatively easily identified in advance. Another quote from the site linked above:
>Carbon Monoxide is the product of incomplete gas combustion often because appliances are improperly adjusted. Properly functioning propane appliances will produce what is called an "ideal burn" during combustion and present no danger of Carbon Monoxide poisoning.

and

>Several products of incomplete combustion are easily visible and if noticed...

Additionally, the Mr. Heater Buddy OP is considering is a catalytic heater, and doesn't produce an open flame (cleaner).

Practicing an abundance of caution, inexpensive CO detectors are available and should be used.

Just want to throw this out there, for $50 you can get an explosive gas alarm. As easy to install as a night light.

Home Depot

Amazon

It’s different than a carbon monoxide alarm, that detects a byproduct of burning the natural gas that can kill you. Many smoke detectors will also detect carbon monoxide. The explosive gas sensor is a metal oxide sensor designed to detect natural gas (methane) or propane.

I would think something like this automatic extinguisher to actually deal with any fire that might have spread to anything combustible plus some kind of wifi/zwave/etc enabled smoke detector, a home automation hub, and a toggle-able outlet to kill the power and prevent any continuous ignition source.

Personally, I recently got a Smart Things Hub and have been considering something like this smoke alarm with one of the many toggle-able outlets. Smart Things allows you to setup rules and what not so if the alarm goes off, power down the outlet. There might be cheaper/better options but that's what fits in with my home automation equipment.

Here you go: Kidde KN-COPP-3 Nighthawk Plug-In Carbon Monoxide Alarm with Battery Backup https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00002N86A/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_.NFMAb3B1N75P

Kidde FA110 Multi Purpose Fire Extinguisher 1A10BC, 1 Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00002ND64/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_7f8pDbN8QV060

$19.99

Nest Smoke Alarm may work for your needs. It is quite expensive though. https://www.amazon.com/Nest-Protect-Monoxide-Battery-Generation/dp/B00XV1RCRY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1518308016&sr=8-1&keywords=nest+smoke&dpID=61jwqMuQ6VL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

This is what happens when water instantly turns to steam and explodes out with a surprising amount of force taking the oil and flames with it.. Cover it and remove it from heat if you can. Small oil fires can be put out with baking soda, and extinguish large oil fires with a powder fire extinguisher if need be..

Also, if you don't have one, even a small to medium sized powder fire extinguisher, something.. Go buy a a huge box of baking soda right now, set it someplace accessible, and be ready to tear that open if need be.. Then go on amazon and get yourself a powder fire extinguisher for probably sub $30 (or hey, when you need to make free shipping) and be safer for it.

Then, never, ever, ever! Put water or some other liquid that boils at a lower temperature than oil, into hot oil and not be anything other than ready to put out a grease fire.. Keep a small baking soda by your stove.. Why not.. Be ready.. Adding wine to that chicken you've been frying in a little too much oil? Oh no, you burned your house down, no you didn't, cause you had baking soda at the ready!

Oh no, it's not enough! Not in your house, you're the Elsa of baking soda! Tear off the top and let it go! Cover the flames and everything around it, let's face it, you're cleaning the kitchen at this point. And besides, the baking soda helps absorb the oil that is now everywhere.. Get a mop, it's time to get cleani--

But wait, the beast, she crackles forth.. But you.. You are prepared.. You must attack the source! No problem! For you are armed with the mightiest and the highest reviewed of all the $30 amazon powder fire extinguishers.. Go forth, pull pin, and let rip at the center of all the flames, the source, and start working your way out.. Cover everything..

If it burns, shoot it..

Smile, victory is yours.. Call your insurance, call your local cleanup crew.. Laugh after realizing you no longer have to clean the kitchen..

TL;DR Get a big box of baking soda and be ready to pour it everywhere! You're fighting a grease fire and IT WILL BURN DOWN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE, if you let it. Also get the best reviewed $30 powdered fire extinguisher on amazon, right now.. Seriously, you'll probably save lives with this some day, or not quite burn down as much of your house...

Oh look! A $30 Highly-reviewed Kidde FA110 Multi-Purpose Powder Fire Extinguisher and a ridiculously long hyperlink so you notice it and buy one because, Hey!!!!!! This!!! THIS WILL SAVE YOUR LIFE and your most valued possessions!!!! And, free shipping over $35... BUY IT! BE SAFE!

Also, for those who have them, you rock, but you should check now to see if yours has expired and replace if need be!!!

AND ABOVE ALL ELSE!! If a fire ever seems out of control, or starts out that way, call the fire department IMMEDIATELY, and fight the fire if you can, flee if you can't.. Your life is more valuable than your belongings.

Twenty Dolars

Buy a fucking fire extinguisher.

They already have detectors that show a reading on an lcd display, they only sound off at 70, but they show levels that are lower.

http://www.amazon.com/Kidde-KN-COPP-B-LPM-Battery-Operated-Monoxide-Digital/dp/B004Y6V5CI/

They are pretty cheap though. I bought a house in Firestone last year and you can get a portable explosive gas detector for inside of fifty bucks - no experience with this one but it's on Amazon for $37 they also sell one that plugs into the wall and also detects carbon monoxide

Biggest problem with the gas straight out of the well is that it has no detectable odors - after it's processed the refinery adds methyl mercaptan to make it stink like sulphur. So you would know if your natural gas line to your furnace or water heater were leaking, but without a detector you probably wouldn't know about something odorless silently seeping into your basement.

I personally have to wonder if the "problems" that were being repaired by installing a new water heater were directly caused by excess heavier gas displacing air enough to cause problems with the pilot light on the water heater.

No worries. I have this First Alert smoke and CO detector. It's been working well, and does report the battery status, accurately in my experience.

https://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-Z-Wave-Detector-Monoxide/dp/B00KMHXFAI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486137045&sr=8-1&keywords=z+wave+smoke+co

I'm not

This is the smoke detector I got https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KMHXFAI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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I have this for the plug https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073GV2PQY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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This hooks into smartthings. For my Google Home stuff I made a video showing how to turn your speakers into a doorbell. But it works the same way when you want to make an alarm for your smoke detector. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYdvZVI7KFA

This one is on sale on Amazon right now for 63% off, $20. It has a digital read out and good reviews. I just bought one. I know you have Prime, order it you lazy ass.

It's very unlikely that anything goes wrong. But if it does, your tapestry would go up in flames, or you'd just pass in your sleep due to lack of oxygen.

Plenty of people do it, its still a gamble. Personally I'd get a nice carbon monoxide and gas alarm alarm if running a propane heater all night.

https://www.amazon.com/Kidde-Battery-Operated-Carbon-Monoxide-Digital/dp/B004Y6V5CI

That is the one I have in my car and my house.

I got one after a father and son in my city died while waiting for their car to warm up. They didn't know they had a leak in their exhaust and the CO doesn't smell like exhaust. It has no smell.

Another lifehack since people are worried they won't have a large baking sheet or anything to cover the fire with.


Buy a damn fire extinguisher to keep around the house; they're $20.

Get a deep fry thermometer that clamps onto the side of the pan. Don't let the oil get hotter than 375. At that temperature, canola oil will not flash.
Use a pan that has a metal lid. In the unlikely event that an attended pot that never exceeds 375 catches fire, put the lid on to smother the fire.
Make sure your potatoes (or whatever) are dry before you put them into the pot, add them slowly so you can stop if the oil starts to boil over. If the oil does boil over and catch fire, use your handy fire extinguisher
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Have an up to date fire extinguisher in your kitchen.

Also, have fire extinguishers in your hall closet, bedroom, car, girlfriend’s car, etc.

Give them to family as stocking stuffers

They are small and cheap and can stop a shitty situation from turning catastrophic.

Carbon monoxide can be produced by any fire. If you are heating anything by "gas" in your house be it propane, butane or whatever, you should have a carbon monoxide monitor. You can find them for about $20-30 dollars. amazon link to a CO detector.

Symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning include:
-Dull headache
-Weakness
-Dizziness
-Nausea
-Vomiting
-Shortness of breath
-Confusion
-Blurred vision
-Loss of consciousness

I admit a couple of people to the hospital a year who get carbon monoxide poisoning. It's never pretty and the treatment is limited. Hyperbaric oxygen is one of the treatments but many hospitals do not have this option so they resort to putting a mask on the person who inhaled the poison till they can call other hospitals till they find one that has the hyperbaric oxygen treatment.

Even if you have a "gas" furnace, water heater, stove or brewery in your house you should have one of these. The molecule has no smell and by the time you notice the effects its usually either too late and its very advanced.