Reddit mentions: The best vehicle sports racks & carriers

Okay, so believe it or not there are factors here that haven't been brought up in the other comments.

First off, what kind of kayaks are we talking about? For whitewater boats, the Thule Stacker or Yakima Bigstack are the obvious choices, but if you're carrying fiberglass touring boats, you won't want either of those.

Second, why is it that you want to fold down - just for aesthetics or do you need to clear an overhead obstruction, like a garage door? If it's just for aesthetics I might encourage you just not to worry about it - carrying your boats safely and loading and unloading easily is a lot more important.

If you're carrying touring or rec boats and want a fold-down solution, the Swiss Cargo carrier is a good option. As far as I know it's really an in-house brand at Dick's Sporting Goods, there's a link elsewhere in the comments. It's essentially a fold-down two sided J bar. Great for what you've described. But I wouldn't recommend it for whitewater boats.

An Expedition is very tall. Loading boats on your roof can't possibly be a pleasant experience. If you're loading heavy boats, I'd really suggest looking into a Thule Hullavator. It's crazy expensive, but it stays horizontal and has a relatively low profile, while greatly simplifying access to your high roof. But because it's so expensive, it's really targeted toward touring paddlers with heavy boats and old shoulders.

My buddy uses [Thule Stackers])http://www.amazon.com/Thule-830-Stacker-Kayak-Carrier/dp/B0001FUAXQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1459269597&sr=1-1&keywords=thule+stacker) on his Tahoe and loves them, but loading is an ordeal that involves a lot of climbing. The Stackers fold out of the way, and unlike the Yakimas they've got a slot in the middle to hold paddles. I use them on my VW when I'm not carrying the boats inside the car (for best fuel efficiency). But for easiest loading for touring and rec boats, you'd be better off with a set of j-bars for each boat. Thule now offers the Hullaport Aero which is pretty nice - J-bars that fold flat. But still a bit pricey. You can get non-folding j bars on ebay for $50 a set.

In the industry, you have what is referred to as a "naked roof". This makes installing a conventional roofrack tricky, but fear not there are alternatives.

One option is to get "towers" that strap under the door and are cinched tight. These work well and my brother has one for his Mazda Protege.

Once you have the towers on, you can get bars that well exceed the width of the vehicle, making transporting two yaks pretty easy.

Although you have short yaks which means they are fat. One way to make stacking boats easier on a roofrack is get a jbar, so the boat can be positioned vertically. I love my Yakima j-bars myself, but you can get cheaper knockoffs from Amazon.

When shopping for bars, there are three types. Flat (factor bars), square (thule), and round (Yakima/generic). I prefer round myself and they fit a number of common saddles and j-bars.

If you really want to save on money, here is dirt cheap tower and round bar set that I used to use on my Corolla:

http://www.prolineracks.com/proline-cb602-universal-car-roof-rack.html

40 dollars...much cheaper than a name-brand like Yakima and easy to install yourself...but the Yakima versions are much better quality.

For j-bars, you can get a dirt cheap set like this for $25...but honestly these don't fit fat kayaks well (doable though, but not ideal):

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003V57NUQ/ref=oh_o00_s00_i01_details

My vote would be for a name-brand j-bar like Yakima:

For even more room you could get folding cradles.

If you call Yakima's sales support, they can give you a ton of useful information.

• Chain wear measuring tool
  
  Optional, you can actually use a ruler if you want. But it makes the job a bit easier and more foolproof.
  
  
• Chain breaking tool (plier-style or punch-style, can't remember how my chain is put together at the moment)
  
  When it's time to replace your chain you'll need the "punch-style" chain tool to size the new one correctly, regardless of the type of chain you currently have. But you won't need one until then, so it's up to you if you want to buy it now or later. The "plier-style" is for removing quick links, but that's mostly a matter of convenience: I just recently got one myself, until now I've just used my fingers, or maybe a bit of wire if it's stuck.
  
  
• Chain cleaner tool
  
  I've used these, but I'm not a big fan. For regular chain maintenance, just some degreaser on a rag is enough. For deeper cleaning there's lots and lots of ways to clean a chain, including these cleaning tools. Other options: remove and shake in a bottle, use an ultrasonic cleaner, use two nail brushes pressed together ... or just not bothering with deep cleaning. It's really up to you.
  
  
• Degreaser (is this bike specific/not?)
  
  I use Simple Green for most jobs. There's bike-specific degreaser, though, if you want.
  
  
• Chain lube (is this bike specific/not?)
  
  This one is definitely bike specific! There's lots of options out there, but cleaning and lubing regularly is more important than which one you use. If you ride in the rain a lot, get a wet lube. I like wax-based lubes, for what it's worth.
  
  
• Brush set (any ones in particular? I know I need the sickle-shaped cog scrapey thing, a bottle brush and something finer)
  
  I use an old toothbrush. I've never bothered with the "sickle-shaped cog scrapey thing," but that's because I remove the cassette completely if it gets dirty enough to need that.
  
  
• Dummy hub
  
  Meh, if you want. I've never needed it.
  
  
• Bike stand
  
  I recommend finding something that lets you work on the bike at a more manageable height. Official bike stands are expensive, but work very well. There are cheaper options that get the job done, though.
  
  For a long time I just mounted a bike hanger like this to the wall. The bike just sits in it, not overly secure, but it's enough to get the bike to a working height, and you can pedal to work on the chain. Enough to do basic maintenance. It also doubles as bike storage. I found this works best with road bikes (narrower handlebars).
  
  More recently, though, I made a bike stand. It's still a work in progress, but I'll post pictures of it here eventually. It's made from sawhorse brackets and 2x4's as the base, and then I use this bracket for my road bike and this bracket for my mountain bike to secure it. The front wheel comes off and clamps down, and the bottom bracket rests on the top of the saw horse, with the wheel hanging off the back. It's secure, I can work in my yard and clean the bike on it, and it was pretty inexpensive to make. And I don't have to worry about clamping to carbon, or where I'm going to clamp with the suspension in the way, etc. The only downside is you can't work on the front wheel or brakes very conveniently. My design doesn't store very compactly, though I'm sure you can find a better way if that's a concern.
  
  Most other tools can be picked up on an as-needed bases. Cable cutters when you replace cables. Lockring tool and chain whip when you want to remove the cassette. Bottom bracket wrench when it's time to service the bottom bracket. Cone wrenches when you service the hubs. A torque wrench if you have a carbon fiber bike. Etc.
  
  I can't help with phone mounts, so I'll let someone else make a suggestion there.

Here is my evolution of racks (originally posted here:

I've just finished trying solutions for getting my 60lb poly Tempest 170 on the roof (almost always solo).

First I used inflatable roof racks from Malone, which get the job done surprisingly well, but lifting the 17 foot boat up there remained a challenge.

Second I shifted to J racks as i hated watching the hull deform a bit (temporarily only) by tying the poly boat down on the inflatable. So I got these Malone J Racks. I like these racks, but they add a few inches to the height needed to lift the boat. I could do it, but tended to scrape the car and boat up a bit. That and eventually I was going to injure my back.

Third I got the Malone Telos Load Assist which seemed like a nice, more affordable solution to load assist than the Thule Hullavator. It can be moved from side to side and vehicle to vehicle so the more boats you are loading (requiring Malone J racks) the cheaper it is effectively. The Telos system works, but ins't perfect. It was still scratching my boat up too much, and my side mirror even when folded in. Honestly for smaller boats it would have been just fine.

Finally I caved and returned the Telos and ordered the Thule Hullavator (Note that you can get it cheaper from other places than amazon, but Amazon is convenient to link to for reviews and such). It is silly how pricey it is, but it simply works. I don't risk my back or my gear when loading or unloading, and it is cake to work with.

Been a few months of use and I am SO happy with the final solution.

I have these roof bars on my 2012 Mazda3 hatch, and I'm happy with it. Price is way cheaper than the Mazda OEM bars. Some wind noise beginning at 40mph, but if you listen to music, it's easily tuned out.

As for the bike rack, you've got a lot of options here, but brand wise you're probably looking at either Thule or Yakima. I went with the Yakima Forklift and I love it. As long as you can easily pop off your front wheel, this is fast and extremely stable (plus if you buy the additional locking mechanism for like $20, the skewer key-locks your fork in place). You can't go wrong with Thule either, but I find Yakima is typically cheaper for a similar product.

Thanks for your reply. hitches are pretty neat I looked into it I might get one in the future but for now the hitch was more expensive than my bike. I asked at uhaul, they're costly. I ended up getting this bike rack from amazon for $ 34. I went to a bike store and they assisted installing it on my car ( I could've done it at home but I wanted to make sure I learn how to install it right the first time). I went home and secured the tires and went on a 12 hours trip, i didnt even have to tighten the straps on the way.it's pretty damn sturdy when it's installed the right way. I was very surprised with how good it does the job and very satisfied. it was worth it.

Hm. I wouldnt suggest leaving your bikes unattended on the rack for too long but the hitch pin idea seems to be easiest. Just make SURE you have things locked up. Or perhaps weld a D ring to the rack to slide a U bolt lock trough. I have a locking hitch pin and I think it was less than $20 which keeps the rack safe.

Also, I would suggest this over the Saris. Dont get me wrong, the Saris is a nice rack, but at that price they are all pretty similar. This one is $100 bucks cheaper which leaves you room for a few locks.

http://www.amazon.com/Swagman-Cross-Country-2-Bike-2-Inch-Receiver/dp/B0001VO1YY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1373762443&sr=8-1&keywords=swagman+bike+rack


I use that rack and its stable enough for highway trips cheap enough to get abused. Seems to work well for my mostly weekend mountain biking trips.

I've had these kayak racks for about 4 years, so no, they are not manufacturer (which I think is Thule). I had them on a '14 Outback until last month.

I looked up the big-name brands at the time and was blown away by the price for a basic rack - not any of those with an elevator system or anything - $100+ was insane, I thought. The way I looked at it was a kayak rack is actually very simple construction. Bent steel with some foam and a mounting bracket system. So I looked on Amazon and found a pair for something like $25 shipped.

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The shape that the camps are molded to doesn't fit the exact shape of the crossbar, but this does not hinder them from being safely tightened. When cranked tight, it has no slippage whatsoever. And I test with a few tugs every time I use them. Great price, great purchase, would recommend 100%.

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This is the exact same product I purchased. Note the price was about $25 at the time, and has gone up. You might be able to find cheaper, or even a double set for around this same price. All the top Amazon products in the category all look to be the exact same thing.

https://www.amazon.com/TMS-J-Bar-Carrier-Mounted-Crossbar/dp/B003V57NUQ

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There's two options in the hitch-realm.

1. Tray-style like this which is what I recommend, especially if you have a carbon-frame bike where resting the bike on the top-tube is ill-advised. I have this one but I think any similar would work just the same. Love the rack, only fixes I've needed after two years is some touch-up paint and a new corrosion-free cotter pin.
   
2. Arm-style like this which is great if you need to carry more than two bikes, but again not advised for higher-end bikes. Benefit is that you can buy conversion kits to allow you to carry skis/snowboards and kayaks.
   
   With both, find something that's going to allow you to tilt or swing the rack away from the hatch so you can open the trunk without removing the bikes.
   
   I can't speak to locking style - I would never leave my bike on the rack regardless of the lock. Any thief will be able to thwart whatever you're going to throw out there. I'll take my bike into the local 7-11 if I'm parking for 5 minutes. It's too simple to just lift and run.

I am selling a Eureka Mighty Mite Canister vacuum (3670G) with vacuum bags for 25. I used it twice, but it's just not for me. The vacuum salesman who did an AMA on here said it was the best one for under 100. It's great, but like I said, not for me. I'm also selling a bike rack, its this one, and I'm selling it for 10.

I have a split commute (10 miles by car, 10.5 by bike each way). You NEED a hitch if you are driving every day with your bike. Bikes and cars are not friends, and use of a trunk mount rack regularly will scratch your car. Uhaul will install it for $200.

I use the Swagman Unit it takes literally 2 seconds to put your bike on and off. I keep it on my car most of the time. It gets a little rusty from the rain/snow, but nothing that some WD 40 can't take care of. It's quicker and easier to use than other styles of bike racks. Only thing to make sure of is that your cables are not located externally on top of your bike's top tube since the arm from this unit clamps down on the frame from the top, so it can wear down on the cable. Most modern bikes either have internal routing or have the cables on the bottom, rather than on top, so it wouldn't be a problem in that scenario.

Feel free to ask if you have any other questions about the split commute. I've been doing it for years, so I feel like I've been through the ringer on all potential issues.

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Getting a cheap rack is the hard part. I'm not sure what's available for the Accord, but you might even want to check with your dealer. My Mazda 3 offered a Mazda-branded Yakima Whispbar, which was already slightly cheaper from Mazda than it was from Yakima. But by getting the Mazda part number and searching online, I found it for about half price, I think around $250.

Once you've figured out a rack, the cradles are easy. I don't know how the big brands get away with the prices they ask. I've had this set for two years now, and they're holding up great. And yes, that's $50 for 4 J-cradles, sufficient to carry two boats. The mounting system will work with either round or aero bars and seems very sturdy.

If you go the kayak route, you can save a bundle for your roof racks if you already have the rails on your vehicle.

These have great reviews on Amazon. I just bought them and used them twice with success. You can also throw in these loops for securing the bows and sterns to your vehicle.

This isn't very original but if I win I'd like a gift card (that ones on my Under $10 wish list). But I suppose I may be slightly unique in this contest to tell you what I'm saving up for this or this. I haven't actually decided which one first.

Maybe not quite so affordable, but cheaper than getting a trailer hitch installed... I have this one and love it. No messing with straps, super stable. Have been using an older model for probably 6 years now. Thule Raceway Pro 2-Bike Strap Rack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M542IKE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_vuRGDbXPHJ495

I use the Thule Raceway Pro Trunk Mount with my Mazda 3. At the time I bought it, I didn't realize there was a cheaper version in the form of the Saris Bones rack, but I still got a pretty good Amazon Warehouse deal for it at $260.

I made a post here, if you're curious how far it sticks out from the car.

I was limited to 1 1/4" hitches (car's a lease, needed to use only OEM parts), which meant this was one of the only options, but it is great: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZZBSJQL

If you can do a 2" hitch then Hollywood makes a great one, too: https://hollywoodracks.com/collections/electric-bike-hitch-racks/products/sport-rider-fat-tire-electric-bike-hitch-rack?variant=46430699910

It comes in both dual fat tire or fat+regular tire versions.

Got these ones. Definitely nothing fancy, but they are getting the job done. Had to put some rubber spacers in to make it fit the rack, but that was really simple. Super secure front to back and came with some nice tie-downs. Wobbles a tiny bit side-to-side with the flex of the rack when you hit bumps, but no problems so far.

All in all, two thumbs up.

http://www.amazon.com/TMS-KAYAK-RK-J-1BOX-Universal-Carrier/dp/B003V57NUQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405359817&sr=8-1&keywords=kayak+mount#productDetails

I don't use a folding J-style rack but I do use J-style racks for my kayaks (2 of them) and they barely fit on the X cross bars. They attach nice and snug.

As for securing the kayaks down, I use the quick straps that came with my racks and make sure to tie them off to prevent slippage.

The farthest I've traveled with this setup is about an hour of highway driving (75 mph).

Edit: The racks I have: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003V57NUQ/ref=sxl1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467757196&sr=1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65

I have a 2003 4runner so its slightly bigger than your 3rd gen. My wife and I each have 10' entry level sit in rec kayaks. I successfully mount and carry both on the factory roof rack with 2 pairs of cheap Amazon J hooks. I can lift and mount the kayaks solo but its much easy with two people. I put 2 ratcheting tie straps over the kayaks securing them to the cross bars and side rails (not the J hooks). I use a bow and stern lines attached to the front recovery loops and rear hitch. It works well. If I were doing longer distance driving (200+ miles) with the kayaks I would probably get some higher grade J Hooks.

Here is the 2 Pairs of J Hooks (thats 4 total) for about $60.
Link

I bought an aftermarker set of cross rail for my wife's Odyessy and another set of J Hooks. I mount and carry them the same way. The van is newer and and cleaners so we only use it for the drop off vehicle. Here is the after market cross rails (that also fit my 4runner) Link

I have an 04 Jetta so hopefully I can help. Hitch mounts are a hassle to install on the car, you need to drill holes through the trunk liner and I didn't think it was worth it.

Roof racks are pretty expensive and they scare me because I'm worried I'd forget about the bike and destroy it.

Honestly if you're gonna be transporting just one bike this cheap rack will work perfectly. Just remember to get some bungee cords to secure both wheels so they don't move around and dent/damage the car. I hit 90mph with my bike on that rack and it was solid but I wouldn't recommend it. 70mph all day though.

You can spend a bit more and find similar racks that have side straps for added stability but honestly I had no issues with the single bottom strap.

I got a great deal on craigslist on this thule trunk mounted platform rack so I picked it up but if I had to pay $300+ for it... no way its that much better than the cheap Allen rack.

I'm getting a hitch on my Murano for bike rack only too. It won't have wiring. I had the same question. $200 including install and parts (U-haul). For the $40 install i'll let them do it. I have a 2014 Murano and I think the exhaust has to be "dropped" to access the mounting holes. I think on the newer version you cant just use a jack and mount it without having to move anything. Still not sure it's worth the trouble to diy. I wish I could get a rack to fit my current one and switch it to my new car, but apparently I can't.

I might be getting a 2020 and wondering if I should just spring for the $400 tow package...not sure if that's factory or dealer installed.

I got a Swagman rack (for 2 bikes). We were using it on our Tahoe until we had to get rid of it. LOVE this style bike rack! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001VO1YY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Congrats!

I did a search on this topic in this sub just yesterday. There seem to be a couple schools of thought. One is the mini racks, which can cost a ton, and the other is a regular basic trunk rack that you would put on most any car.

I'm in that second group. Call it, "poorish, but still drives a mini" lol...this is the one I'm looking at https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00TRTSAZM/?coliid=I2318EG7WH2TDX&colid=1X1F6GR5R8ENV&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

If you search the sub for "bike rack" you'll see tons of past posts and lots of good feedback. Enjoy the new mini!!

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Some of these aren't amazing, and some might expire by the time you get to them, but this is mostly everything mountain biking related. Good luck, all!

If your truck has tiedowns like these, you could thread a cable lock through there. Or, if all you're concerned about is locking the fork, you could get locking bike skewers and replace the stock Yakima skewers in the cheaper blockhead.

Edit: Even better, third party locking skewers specifically for fork mounts exist!

Edit2: Also, if you're looking for security, how else would you secure the mount in the bed other than bolting it on? You could get a locking hitch rack maybe, but those tend to be pretty expensive also.

My recommendation is to get a hitch and dedicated rack, especially if you're concerned about paint damage.


I've been using a Swagman XTC on my hatchback to carry my mountain bikes after having it recommended to me by several guys I ride with. Easy to install/remove, easy to load, stable on the highway, plenty of clearance to to get to trail heads. If you have more money, get the oneupusa bike rack.

Either rack will allow you to run a cable lock through the rack and bike for a minimal amount of security.

A Draw-Tite hitch is affordable and doesn't need to use a strap for stabilization (which apparently some hitches require based upon their mount design).

Trunk/hatch mounts are probably the most versatile by being unmountable when you don't need it.

Roof and hitch racks are stronger. Hitch racks are safer in that you won't ever bash the bike into a garage or low roof.

For your use case, a trunk mount is probably fine. This one is pretty good: https://www.amazon.com/Saris-Bones-2-Bike-Trunk-Rack/dp/B000BT30RK?th=1

I bought this rear swing-out bike rack for my truck. Very heavy duty (and very heavy), swings out easily for me to get access to my steps and camper door, swings back in and secures tightly. Downside: expensive, heavy. Upside: works great. I've taken it on some very lumpy roads (Alaska, Yukon, NW Territory, B.C.) and none of the articulating parts seem to have worn at all. Says it fits 4 bikes but that may be ambitious. 2 bikes fit with plenty of room to spare, though.

I think it's the older version of the Allen Sports Ultra compact bike rack no profit link

But I bought it last summer and swear I paid less than the $56 they are asking for now. The only issue I have with it is that I haven't been able to get it to sit perfectly vertical on my car so the bike water bottle cages end up leaning against the central support. But I've driven a few hundred miles with my bikes on the car and haven't had any problems with it.

Toss my Vibe on top of my Wrangler Sport as well. Not always the easiest thing to load solo.

I bought these guys to make it a little easier on my top:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BCLL52I/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It's worked out pretty well so far.

thanks! these are the cheapest J Racks on Amazon and they work pretty good!

I have a Chevy Cruze and an 11 foot kayak, what I do is first unscrew the antenna at the center of the roof. Most cars this can just screw and unscrew no problem.

I have 2 foam blocks like this Centering it as best I can. I try to put them right before the windshield and rear window, the area with the most support. When I load my kayak there is a small part that actually touches the roof so I just put an old towel under it to prevent scratching. The towel is pinned by the kayak and not going anywhere.

Next I put these things under the trunk and hood so I can use a rope to tie down the front and back. I have tried running this system without tying down the front and back and I would not feel comfortable driving more than a couple miles going <30 MPH.

Now I use straps like this and open all my doors and loop it over the kayak and through my car. Again trying to stay close to the front for more strength.

Then I just tighten the front and back ropes to make sure its not going to move left to right, and double check the straps across the kayak.

It seems like a lot but the whole process of loading and tying down takes maybe 10 minutes and that's alone. Quick drive around the block to make sure its good and I'm okay with driving for a couple hours before I want to check it.

This system has worked well for me and the only damage to my car has been the straps will move around a little near the door and leave marks but those are easily buffed out.

I did some more research and came across an article that recommended these (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004O990KO/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1), and I think j-cradles are the best approach for me since I plan on adding a second kayak down the road. The reviews also look good.

But that is just one component - I also need crossbars / an actual rack. I've been browsing that autoanything website, and there are quite a few different brand options. Any experience with the Rhino brand? Those are highly rated on that site. Also any recommendation on rack type - round, square, etc?

I've got budget crossbars and budget j-racks from amazon. The crossbars are CargoLoc, and they have a decent set of reviews on Amazon. They fit nicely. I'm not sure I 100% trust the locking mechanism that clamps the bars to the rails, so I tie them off to the roof rails to be sure. The bars themselves are extruded aluminum and are fine. If you tie a loop of good rope around the rails as a backup, well, that's not that different from the plastic strap that holds expensive Timberline towers onto the rails. The kayak racks are kayak racks. They're just metal bars and some bolts and plates that hold the racks to the crossbars. The ones I got are budget, but they also have very good reviews from users. They're functionally identical to more expensive racks.

I know some will disagree, and I probably would, too, if I used them more regularly. The CargoLocs certainly are not pretty.

Bars: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GA2HKAU
Racks: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00873J0YY

Lots of Crosstreks in the crossbar reviews.

I've been using this one since early this year and it's awesome. Easy to take on and off. Tilts away from the car so you can still get into the trunk. It's built very well for the price I paid. I got it on sale for around $165.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D94B52G?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

I have an 11 Forester. I like my Thule rack, it's easy to adjust, easy to put on and off, and holds the bike well. I got mine from Craigslist for around $60 - new ones were stupid-expensive. I've got a couple of bikes, some of them are annoying to have to take apart to fit inside.

Edit: Thule Raceway Pro:

http://www.amazon.com/Thule-Raceway-2-Bike-Strap-Rack/dp/B00M542IKE

I am hoping to buy my first kayak tomorrow as I check into a used one, so don't take this as expert advice.

This [one[(http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=31230526&cp=4406646.4413887.4413986.4417717.4417969) at Dick's is the same kayak with two rod holders. A comparable car carrier kit from amazon costs $25. The BJ's version comes with a paddle, while you can get a cheap paddle for $30.

So, I'm thinking, for about $50, is it worth it to install a rod holder or two? You could actually do the foam car carrier yourself by going to a fabric store, where they will sell foam. I suspect a couple of pieces of foam like that would just cost a few dollars. They might even have it as scrap for nothing (if you're especially lucky or handsome).

Budget friendly means something different to everyone, but a Saris Bones 2 bike rack is about $150, or you could go with a Saris Bones 3 bike rack for about $20 more, which has more room in the even that you would be taking two bikes, but they fit awkwardly. Yakima and Thule make racks close to the same price range, and they are solid as well. As others have said, ebay or craigslist may have used ones as well, but you just have to make sure the whole thing is there (not missing any pieces or parts).

Have you considered foam racks? Copy and paste from my post earlier:

I have a 2000 civic hatchback DX so we basically have the same car but my car has a bigger butt. I bought this 25$ foam kit off amazon and it works fine. I also got these hooks and installed them on the radiator bolts and carry the kayak in the center of the roof. Two straps that came with the foam kit across the kayak and through the door shutting both doors on the straps, one more like it from tail of kayak to tow hook in the back, and one of the ropes off the nose like a V attaching to these two hooks on the front of the car. If you want to go more expensive there is this 90$ inflatable roof rack. I went with the cheaper route because I usually have a truck but the few times I don't I want to be able to still go out. I've yet to have an issue with the foam blocks. They work really well.

Edit, I also have a moonroof installed on my car. Tightened down tighter then it probably needs to be, the kayak almost touches the moonroof.

They also make wider ones for non V shaped kayaks also.

Saris bones is awesome.

If you're on a budget, I can say from experience the Allen MT-1 is also fantastic, and folds up ultra compact so you can just toss it in your trunk.

Only holds one bike however, the Allen MT-2 holds 2.

It was my first time driving with the kayaks loaded and strapped down so I took it easy. About 30 miles at 60mph. When I got off the freeway I checked how secure the straps were and everything held nicely.

I bought these kayak racks.

Hey fellow mazda owner (protege here). If you want a nice option go with a good roof rack, but if you want a cheap/decent option go with this guy:

http://www.amazon.com/Attwood-Car-Top-Kayak-Carrier-Kit/dp/B003EET2OE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1375188645&sr=8-2&keywords=kayak+roof

If I had the money I'd get something nicer, but this does the job

What kind of kayak are you thinking of getting?

If it can fit inside your vehicle without impeding your driving then that is probably fine, if you have to force it to make it fit then it's probably less fine.

If you have a hard-top on your jeep then there's also the option of using foam blocks (something like https://www.amazon.com/Attwood-11438-7-Kayak-Car-Top-Carrier/dp/B003EET2OE/) instead of a full set of cross bars. You should be able to find them at just about any store that sells kayak stuff. They're a little less convenient then a set of cross bars but they work well enough if you're careful and they're cheap.

Another option is a trailer hitch mounted rack. I have a 1 1/4" inch receiver hitch on my Honda Fit and have a hitch mounted rack that I use with it. It's more secure than a trunk mounted rack, and much quicker and easier to install and remove. It's also cheaper than a roof rack.

http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Hitch/Mazda/6/2005/11308.html?vehicleid=20059136

http://www.amazon.com/Swagman-Cross-Country-2-Bike-2-Inch-Receiver/dp/B0001VO1YY

http://www.amazon.com/Thule-958-Parkway-2-Bike-Receiver/dp/B000CQ47H4

I have used the universal kayak racks for 30 bucks on Amazon and I have also just laid it across the bar. Both work fine. The OB has flat bars though and the bought racks have a round bracket but just tightening them down really made it secure. I have not used them since they got replaced (a tree ripped them off during the hurricanes) but even when they were used, they held up to some pretty rigorous kayak hauling.


Here's the link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003V57NUQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_6UcKAb1JFHDBC

I agree with you that this is likely the cheapest route to go for universal fit. You could go another step up and get something like these Saris trunk racks below.

http://www.amazon.com/Saris-Bones-801-3-Bike-Trunk/dp/B000BT30RU/ref=sr_1_1?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1453816460&sr=1-1&keywords=saris

http://www.amazon.com/Saris-Bones-805-2-Bike-Trunk/dp/B000BT30RK/ref=sr_1_2?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1453816460&sr=1-2&keywords=saris

I bought a Swagman XC last season to use a bike rack and I haven't had any issues so far. All of the weight of the bike is still on the wheels. I just make sure the frame is nice and clean where the frame holder comes into contact with it.

If you have a $500 budget, you might want to go ahead and get a roof rack. Then you can get a couple of J racks. The bars might come in hand for other stuff (car top carrier, skis, etc) as well.

I just took delivery of this one today...Overdrive Sport 2-Bike Hitch... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D94B52G?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
It's very well built and designed. Cheap! I'm very happy with it. 2 60kg ebikes, locks, folding, etc. Less than$300 delivered.

Have this Saris and it works great. I like that it doesn’t touch the frame.

If you do look at hitch mounts, go with a upright type like this one. Bought one of the early models and it still works great.

They sell these kayak mounting kits Here

I used one of these on a 13.5' Feelfree Lure on top of a '08 Pontiac Grand Prix for two seasons without much issue. The advice I would have is if you want make sure you don't scratch anything, put a blanket down while getting everything in place.

The least expensive option for bike racks is going to be a trunk mount bike rack. Even the name brand racks are less than $150.

Thule Passage - $150

Yakima Hang Out - $100

Allen Sports (Amazon Choice) - $40

I used a cheap rack, like the last option, I got off craigslist for years, never had an issue. The trick is to tighten everything when you mount the rack, then re-tighten after you mount the bikes. Whether you want options like folding arms, is up to you, but that's a good option if you are keeping the rack on 24/7.

Bought the (http://www.amazon.com/Allen-Deluxe-2-Bike-Trunk-Mount/dp/B000ELUXFC/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1368591649&sr=1-1) Not that long ago and it's been working really great so far. I've taken 2 bikes on it going 60 and hitting mild bumps in the road and railroad tracks. A little budge, but not much movement. It's pretty secure. With that said, I don't think I would take it on long road trips, because the little budge that it does make sometimes worries me.

I was thinking of doing the pool noodles but went with https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003EET2OE/ref=ya_st_dp_summary instead.

Hoping it works well.

I have this one by Allen Sports and it works sufficiently. I'm sure their 3-bike version is comparable.

It is easily installed/uninstalled, and easy to mount the bike on. Seems sturdy enough, I haven't had any reason to be worried about it breaking or my bike falling off. Haven't noticed any scratches on my car or anything like that either.

I bought a roof mount Yakima ski rack 14 years ago on the advice that it would serve me well across multiple cars over many years for many different purposes, and that has played out saving money in the long run. I would pick either Yakima or Thule and buy a good set of bars and the right towers then just go with it for many years. Who knows how long you'll have your Subie.

I most recently purchased the Yakima Forklift rack with the idea that I could use it on my Yakima round bars or on my wife's car with factory bars, or whatever car I have in the future.

As it relates to wind noise, roof mount is worse but you get used to and the Yakima Windjammer works suprisingly well. I notice very little difference in gas mileage, maybe a loss of 2-3 mpg with a very thirsty Jeep Grand Cherokee.

This rack doesn't require it, as it has a rubber strip that runs along the top. But they do make some thick foam pads if you're concerned about it. I bought these for my trailer and they work well:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BCLL52I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

You can place them on top of the car, or fit around an "aero" style rack.

I don't know if you've got the space or care to carry the weight, but you might want to look into carrying a compact bike rack. I don't use this for hitchhiking but I have used it to carry my bike many miles on the interstate. That'd definitely open up your options if people are willing.

This is one I've had for about a year now. it's about 6-7 lbs and can fold into a backpack

https://www.amazon.com/Allen-Sports-Compact-Folding-1-Bike/dp/B004C94X12/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1493706872&sr=8-5&keywords=folding+bike+rack

I've been a fan of these amazon tray style racks. That is the current one I own, and I had a much cheaper variation that I used previously for 10 years before it got rear ended (I actually bent it back and my buddy is using it still). For extra security I use a 12mm chain and huge lock directly to the hitch mount.

I have the exact same car as you, Mazda3 Sedan

I have this rack

Works perfectly, no complaints. Easy to put on and take off. Super cheap too.

I've taken it on the highway and on bumpy side roads. No unnecessary swaying or bouncing

Thanks! I can't open the doors with the bikes on the rack unfortunately. I bought it because it was the cheapest rack on Amazon with the highest ratings. Works great for the price.

In case for some reason you haven't tried it, a lot of smaller cars have seats that fold down. I take my front wheel off and take my bike to the trails that way. Alternatively, you can get a trunk rack for pretty cheap on Amazon or something.


Just something to think about, I hope your bike works out for you.

Edit: Just realized you said you don't have a car, I thought you said you had a SMALL car, sorry about that.

The Saris Bones 3 is about $150 on amazon.
I had one on my ST (with plenty of Lamin-X protection film at the mounting points) and it was great.

Saris Bones 801 3-Bike Trunk Mount Rack (Gray) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BT30RU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_t6rAybEAKG11X

I have a fusion and let me tell you these cars are not made to carry kayaks so you have a few things to buy. I'm gonna attach everything I bought for you and I've had great results with it so far.

Roof rack SportRack SR1002 Complete Roof Rack System, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BHWMDSM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_63UbzbPVPJJQX

Kayak rack Thule 830 The Stacker (4) Kayak Carrier https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0001FUAXQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_k5UbzbKX7MW08

Under the hood bow and stern tie points. The whole car is plastic and there's no safe spots to tie them. Thule 530 Quick Loop Strap,Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001EOZD26/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_X5Ubzb54HDK4S

Thanks for the bit of kayak info, I really don't know much about them at this point. I'm hoping you notice my future thread I'll post about buying a kayak, if I need to post after doing my research.

I consider the $200 for the trailer to be paid for already, because I'll use this trailer for other things. So adding in two pair of these racks and setting them up similar to this trailer won't cost me much at all (thanks /u/chancrescolex).

Dropper seat posts also help make the bike small when storing it on a pull out.

I am converting a van and will use something like this:

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https://www.amazon.com/Delta-Cycle-Hitch-Locking-Mount/dp/B000ACAM7E/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=bicycle+front+wheel+mount&psc=1&qid=1572292256&sr=8-7

You can use these on a pull out or on the wall to secure your bike. The item you pictured is really only for your house, in a vehicle it would let your bike flop around.

Sure thing, it's a Swagman XC I purchased off Amazon, link below.

I didn't want to spend too much on a carrier, and my coworker has had one for about 4 years with no problems.

It probably weighs about 20 pounds, but attaches and removes pretty easy. I've had it hold a mountain bike and a road bike with no issues, but I usually detach it and leave it in the house.

Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001VO1YY/

Awesome, I'm looking at doing something very similar with my 4Runner. Although, I've been leaning towards running 12v to a fridge.

Any reason you did roof mount bike rack instead of a swing away hitch mount? Probably cost?

I've been eyeing [this one](SportRack Ridge Swing 4 Hanging Hitch Bike Carrier https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R8KAADC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_SfBezb3N6AGX8) lately.

The way I see it:

Roof Pros: Out of the way, cheaper, can still tow things
Roof Cons: Hard to get up there, possible front wheel take off/storage, gas mileage, difficult for multiple bikes, clearance
Hitch Pros: Easy access, multiple bikes
Hitch Cons: Slightly obstructive, need to get bar for non flat frame bikes, cost, can't tow things

I have a boat so ideally roof would be best, but everyone online says get a hitch mount.

I'm going to pick this up on Sunday to transport my new boat on my little Honda fit. Should work for you as well, and a little more comforting than a pool noodle rig in my opinion.

I bought this QR mount and just screwed it on to a an old shelf i found. This cancels out toppling over. I also throw couple of straps from sides for good measure. With front wheel off i can fit my full suspension in to a Honda fit. I also bought a $5 tarp at home depot and throw that under the bike to protect interior.
The front wheel i just strap down with bungee cords so it doesn't move around.

I have a friend who says she uses this setup for their boat and it works well (she also doesn't have roof bars, she drives a Camry): https://smile.amazon.com/Attwood-11438-7-Kayak-Car-Top-Carrier/dp/B003EET2OE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521808778&sr=8-3&keywords=kayak+car

Roof racks are a pain and expensive. We all know people who got them because they look cool on a Saab, and I refuse to become that guy. Hitch mount racks are better I think. Having a hitch mounted to your car and buying this is still way cheaper a Thule roof rack system. I have the Swagman and love it. Takes literally 3 seconds to get your bike on and off it. As for the Kayak, I also use this

I've been using a swagman rack for about 5 years and it works great.

Might be worth investing in a bike rack... there are some pretty decent inexpensive ones out there including this one: https://www.amazon.com/Allen-Sports-Deluxe-2-Bike-Trunk/dp/B000ELUXFC

This kit worked great for me

Here is what it looks like with bikes on. I did go and order something like these from /u/rswinkler's suggestion. Didn't know they existed before.

I bought a Thule and couldn't be happier with it. Buy [these] (https://www.amazon.com/TMS-J-Bar-Carrier-Mounted-Crossbar/dp/B003V57NUQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1468343275&sr=8-2&keywords=kayak+rack&refinements=p_85%3A2470955011) attachments to mount your kayak to the rack as the Thule ones are pricy. Check craigslist often for attachments. I picked up two bike attachments for about the price of one.

Edit: Yakima's are on prime day.

I got one of these recently. So far so good. I use it with two 29" full sus bikes.

You can add a small padlock through each arm, but you'd probably be better off with a thick cable around the bikes and hitch.

https://www.amazon.com/Swagman-Cross-Country-2-Bike-2-Inch-Receiver/dp/B0001VO1YY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1503450943&sr=8-1&keywords=swagman+xc2

http://www.amazon.com/Allen-Sports-Deluxe-2-Bike-Trunk/dp/B00TRTSAZM/ref=lp_491440011_1_1?s=outdoor-recreation&ie=UTF8&qid=1451668942&sr=1-1

$35. I took a mini road trip to do a century ride with my road bike and a couple days worth of supplies in my Miata. Easy peasy

Thats also a little bit of my concern.These were the ones I bought because I was being a little cheap after buying the kayaks and they had decent reviews. They seem pretty sturdy on the local roads that I've been on. I may have to be less cheap and go out and buy some more "premium" ones. I think I spent like 60 bucks for the two sets that I have so they probably aren't the best quality.

Few active deals I came across just now. Kicking myself for buying two RockyMounts TieRod Mounts yesterday at $140...

Wahoo TICKR

Yakima ForkLift Fork Mount Rooftop Bike Rack

Fizik Arione K:ium Rails Road Bicycle Saddle

Pearl Izumi - Ride Select LTD Jersey

Yakima Products RidgeBack Hitch Bike Rack 4 bike $190

I currently have this one and it's fantastic

Allen Sports Deluxe 2-Bike Trunk Mount Rack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TRTSAZM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_Yb5iXdZrWVlnH

I use Malone J-cradles. They fit well on the Thule square bars.

http://www.amazon.com/Malone-Downloader-Folding-J-Style-Universal/dp/B004O990KO

I got the overdrive. It supports 2 bikes. I think they make it for just 1 bike as well.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07D94B52G?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

Thanks for the pictures!

Is the cross bar necessary, or is that the bike carrier? Also, would these J hooks be able to clip onto the rack you have?

I would definitely consider used, there isn't a whole lot that can go wrong with these boats so 99% of the used ones will be perfectly seaworthy. I'd also definitely recommend a sit on top for stability while fishing, the Cobra brand kayaks seem to be much more stable than other brands due to their width and hull design. I bought my Cobra Fish n Dive on Craigslist for $350.

Roof racks can be pricey, my car is smaller than yours and I've been getting by fine using a foam block kit off amazon without a rack, however that can wear paint or damage door seals over time.

I wouldn't get a roof rack that requires modification to the roof of your car. That potentially could cause more damage than just strapping it to your roof.

Tried the passenger seat thing, couldn't get it in there without some serious finagling & I'm too protective of my leather. I figure I'll go for this one, just wanted to make sure there wasn't some obvious miata-specific thing I was missing. Thanks!

The Mopar roof rack. I have a cheap kayak rack I screw onto it from my pathfinder. And then I plan on putting 2nd yak on the Mopar rack itself. If it isn't sturdy I'll buy another cheapo kayak attachment on Amazon.

Said cheapo attachments.... Lifetime Warranty TMS J-Bar Rack HD Kayak Carrier Canoe Boat Surf Ski Roof Top Mounted on Car SUV Crossbar https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003V57NUQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_b7nbBb1JE5QD4

I have this $100 hitch-mount two bike carrier and I like it, especially for the price. I use a short piece of accessory cord (i.e. rope) to tie down the back tire to the tray because of the steep top tube angle on my FS bike, but if you have a flat top tube that probably isn't necessary. Only complaint is that the ball bearing in the detent pins rusts a bit if you leave it on the car long term. Now that I'm not taking my bike to work due to the time change I just leave the whole assembly in my trunk because it folds up.

https://www.amazon.com/Swagman-Cross-Country-2-Bike-2-Inch-Receiver/dp/B0001VO1YY/

The Saris Bones series of trunk mount racks are really nice. The only issue we have run into with ours is that you can't comfortably fit two 29ers on it at one time. This can be solved with the bones 3.
http://www.amazon.com/Saris-Bones-805-2-Bike-Trunk/dp/B000BT30RK

Allen Sports Deluxe 2-Bike Trunk... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TRTSAZM?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Is this what you mean? I got this a few years ago and I love it. Super simple to put on and take off, the hooks don’t damage the paint at all as long as it’s installed correctly and it’s very easy to put two bikes on it. I was initially worried about the “spoiler” of the Renegade getting bent awkwardly with this but it’s sturdy enough that it can take the weight.

I sure do!
Rack: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001VO1YY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

lock & cable: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000SLHU2W/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

trailer hitch: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B004C6S0SC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Bought a swagman xtc rack when I bought my hitch from etrailer a few months ago. They're around ~$215 or you can get the cheaper swagman xc for ~$100 (same thing, but xtc is the update with nicer platforms). They both had around 1000 reviews at 4.5 stars and I've had no problems with mine.

I bought curt's bike rack support strap and it made the rack solid with no worries about wobbling. Just took it on a 5hr road trip with 2 road bikes driving at ~80mph. I could do 85-90 but it would wobble a little so I stuck around 80.

To combat the scratching the frame problem I bought pipe insulation (aka pool noodles) for $5 and put them on over the top tubes so no worries about the rack scratching anything.

Just be aware that the rack can only fit tires <= 2.5inch or else you need to buy the wider platforms from amazon which are like $15 for a pair or something if you have a fat bike.

http://www.amazon.com/Allen-Sports-Deluxe-2-Bike-Trunk/dp/B00TRTSAZM?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

This universal one. It was on sale for $25 bucks on Slickdeals last Friday and i gotta say I'm rather impressed. That is subject to change once my back windshield gets busted in. /s

The saris bones rack is very popular and fits many vehicles.

If i bought these for my car...... could i buy these to fit?

I just bought these the other day. because my kayak is too wide to also carry my wifes on top of the car. Here's is a pelican boost? 100. It's the 10ft sit on top at dicks.

http://www.amazon.com/TMS-J-Bar-Carrier-Mounted-Crossbar/dp/B003V57NUQ


Here's a video just after I installed it on my yakima bars. I wobble the back and it moves a lot but I just had a loose ratchet strap in the video. It holds it down just fine on my 45min drive on I-80 in New Jersey going 60-75mph

Shaking it shakes the whole car quit a bit. It's solid, and they're $30.

Only Downside is they don't collapse, so I either leave them on and they point straight up, or I take my whole rack off, because the little quick release wing nut things don't get it tight enough. I actually tightened them on with a wrench. So they're not quick to take off.

Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlzLC2-qe5g

Same here. Good product. It folds up so you can put it in a trunk, too. $125 on Amazon.

We have this. It's easy to load and folds down so I can still access the back hatch on our car.

The most inexpensive method would be to buy an attwood car rack set - foam holders, cam straps, and ropes. You can wrap the cam straps around the kayak and through your car windows- essentially holding the kayak to the upper part of the car. ALWAYS tie down at least either the stern or bow of the kayak to the back/front or the car- ideally both.

Still a little confused. How do they work? Can I buy a universal kayak mount and attach them somehow? Recently bought the oem racks and with those clamps I can attach them to this ?
this

Thanks for the help.

If you want to go for a hitch rack, I have many friends who use this Swagman rack for their bikes. I will be picking one up eventually, but for now I have a hand-me-down Yakima.

Swagman: http://amzn.com/B001DMJPLO

Yakima (the style I have): http://amzn.com/B0012SA4BE


Thule, Swagman and SportRack all make a near identical rack. I know SportRack and Thule are related, not sure about Swagman. But as I said, I have two friends who own them and they work great.
I priced it out when I got mine, and a hitch + Swagman rack were half the price of a roof rack setup, less wind noise, potentially less of a gas mileage loss and less to steal. One of said friends had two roof racks stolen from his car before switching to a hitch mount version.

The downside to the Yakima rack I posted is it does not play well with some bike frames with fancy curved top tubes, or many womens style frames with the very low top tube. That's likely not going to be an issue with your SuperFly, but it's something to consider.

Here's a link to a hitch for your Sable: http://www.jcwhitney.com/class-i-receiver-hitch/p2004349.jcwx?filterid=d1608y2000j1

I have ancient Yakima bars I got from my parents when they upgraded, and recently bought the ForkLift system for bikes. It's a fork mount, so as long as you're okay with stowing the fronts in the trunk it'll work. You could always get tire racks, or buy a rack that doesn't require you to take the front tire off. I trust fork mount racks more, but a lot of that comes down to preference.

Total cost of bars and 2 ForkLift racks below is $707

https://www.yakima.com/timberline-kit-corebar-50

https://www.amazon.com/Yakima-ForkLift-Fork-Mount-Rooftop/dp/B001PRV7H2/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=yakima+forklift&qid=1554216902&s=gateway&sr=8-1

Allen Deluxe 2-Bike Trunk Mount Rack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ELUXFC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_ujjqDb4KTDK9Q

Is what I have for my ‘17 hybrid. Check their website to confirm yours should fit tho.

I found a used set of the Thule crossbars at a dealership for 240$ that were like new. Then I bought this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003V57NUQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_0oi8AbKDRG2FS

Unfortunately their 20% deal ended yesterday. This deal is pretty much over but you might still be able to grab a deal on amazon. Trek and most resellers have already gone back to the normal price.

Saris Superclamp EX 2-Bike Rack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06ZZBSJQL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_N.wdBb12NQYH5

https://www.etrailer.com/hitch-2016_Honda_CR-Z.htm

100 for a hitch, says it fits on the car.

https://www.amazon.com/Swagman-Cross-Country-2-Bike-2-Inch-Receiver/dp/B0001VO1YY/ref=sr_1_3?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1517795853&sr=1-3&keywords=1-1%2F4+Inch+Hitch+bike+rack

132 for a bike rack. easily found used for under 100 into the 50 range.

cost a lot more to repaint the rear end when its scratched up then to do it right the first time.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ELUXFC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If you have prime you can have it here by Friday afternoon. Easy to install, and it will work on most cars as far as I can tell (I have a hatchback, so not a trunk like the one pictured)

There are plenty of other options out there too. Those were just a few I found with a quick google search. The downside to that last one is that those kayak racks can run around $100-$200 per set if you get a name brand. I have these though and they work just fine. You'd also need some welding experience and the right equipment.

If it were me, I think I would prefer not having the kayaks out towards the sides, just in case I got side-swiped or something. I like the variations that have the kayaks raised above the platform and then you have the whole bed for gear.

I am a big fan on using these guys in a serpentine pattern along the way to store spare bikes. This does assume that you at least have a fork per frame though.

I then have a bunch of plastic bins on the floor below the bikes for parts and a bunch of hooks on the ceiling for wheels.

You spelled bike rack wrong. Buy a used or cheap bike rack to keep in your trunk. Put it on when riding around town. Completely legal and obscures the plate enough to beat cameras and plate scanners.

This image demonstrates the effect well. $35 bucks and you can also carry bikes with it if you like.

https://www.amazon.com/Allen-Sports-Deluxe-2-Bike-Trunk/dp/B00TRTSAZM

Link to a very similar bike mount I used. And this is what I used in my rails on my Tacoma. With a little grinding off on the edges of the sprig but, I made it work. Then just go by some nylon locking nuts and stainless bolts.
Hope this helps!

http://www.amazon.com/Thule-830-Stacker-Kayak-Carrier/dp/B0001FUAXQ/

This is the one I use, I have oval bars. I can get two boats on the roof of a Mazda two. Ones a 12', the other is 11'. Provided you ratchet them well and use a front and back tie down to the back and front bumper of the car, its totally doable.

If you have a sedan, buy one of these immediately. You will never get a camera and the chance of actually gstting phlled over for it is minuscule.
https://www.amazon.com/Allen-Sports-Deluxe-2-Bike-Trunk/dp/B00TRTSAZM?ref_=Oct_CABSellerC_491440011_0&pf_rd_p=bcaa868f-7082-5fe0-a9d9-f7180fad866a&pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-6&pf_rd_t=30901&pf_rd_i=491440011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=QFZA5V0YJ07E1MTWVCTK&pf_rd_r=QFZA5V0YJ07E1MTWVCTK&pf_rd_p=bcaa868f-7082-5fe0-a9d9-f7180fad866a

attwood 11438-7 Universal Rack-Free Car-Top Kayak Carrier Kit with Supporting Foam Blocks https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003EET2OE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ugiTCbWZCJ677

This is what I used for my 2015 Nissan Altima very similar to the Accord

A Universal Bike Rack Should work just fine.

Just be careful with the installation not to scratch the paint or apply too much pressure to anything. Drive very carefully with the bike attached.

Lifetime Warranty TMS J-Bar Rack HD Kayak Carrier Canoe Boat Surf Ski Roof Top Mounted on Car SUV Crossbar https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003V57NUQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_ldgyzbKTDDMVG

I drive a 2013 Infiniti G37x. I use this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ELUXFC/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Fits two bikes, works fine for me.

This is what I use on my Focus ST.

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Works fine on hatchbacks, holds 2 bikes and there is a 3 bike option. You should be able to get on amazon.uk.

My housemate went through this two years ago.

Thule and Yakima are kind of expensive. We ended up getting a cheap, "universal" generic strap-on roof rack. It's ugly and it's not something to leave on the car all the time, but it works and it fits my car as well as hers.

We also got some J-bars to hold the kayak, which are helpful.

The problem we ran into that was insurmountable was the human factor - my housemate couldn't lift a kayak up over her head to get it on the rack when she wanted to go out by herself. (She does not even lift, bro.)

So we exchanged the kayak for an inflatable, which fits in the trunk.

I know a couple of people who have had ome of these on their car for years amd have never been pulled over for it. Totally prevents camera tickets

https://www.amazon.com/Allen-Sports-Deluxe-2-Bike-Trunk/dp/B00TRTSAZM/ref=zg_bs_491440011_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=SSGYVKNTCZZXC39M1TYW

I agree. I bought these a couple years ago for $15 apiece (now $25). Delta Cycle Bike Hitch Pro Locking Fork Mount https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000ACAM7E/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_sFt-zbZF4E2E7. I laser cut the rail inserts out of SS.

Something similar to this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Swagman-Cross-Country-2-Bike-2-Inch-Receiver/dp/B0001VO1YY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1398042212&sr=8-2&keywords=swagman+xtc+2

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0001VO1YY

https://www.amazon.com/Subaru-Impreza-Roof-Rack-Carrier/dp/B004HGXMYE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1511812242&sr=8-1&keywords=subaru+roof+rack+2013+wrx




https://www.amazon.com/Yakima-ForkLift-Fork-Mount-Rooftop/dp/B001PRV7H2/ref=sr_1_13?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1511812271&sr=1-13&keywords=bike+roof+rack

Racks are ROLA 59726, JBars are TMS J-Bars

Front is tied down to a SoCal Tow Hook. Rear tied to the tow-hook area on the rear drivers-side. Slammed it in the trunk for the pic as it was blowing in the wind.

These are the J hooks:

Lifetime Warranty TMS® 2 Pairs... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00873J0YY?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

dude, just order one of these. If your vin is visible through you windshield put a sticker over it.

booters arent allowed to touch your car to check your plate/vin

https://www.amazon.com/Allen-Sports-Deluxe-2-Bike-Trunk/dp/B00TRTSAZM/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=car+trunk+bike+rack&qid=1567983676&s=sporting-goods&sr=1-4

I got these on my crossbars and had zero issues last summer.

https://smile.amazon.com/Lifetime-Warranty-TMS-Carrier-Crossbar/dp/B003V57NUQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1493324975&sr=8-2&keywords=kayak+j+rack

Try this!

https://www.amazon.com/Allen-Sports-Deluxe-2-Bike-Trunk/dp/B000ELUXFC?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_4

Its a TMS J-Bar Rack HD Kayak Carrier... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003V57NUQ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

You would be much better off mounting these on the truck box. Just get some long bolts and lock washers and send them up through that block of wood on the underside of the lid.

Now you just need one of these and you can have the vest of both worlds! https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TRTSAZM/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1510029901&sr=8-1-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=allen+bike+rack&psc=1

I use this one. Its so tiny and I've taken it on a couple 150 mile trips. Allen makes a 2 bike model with a similar design for $60 at Walmart.

I haven't had any issues with this one yet.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00TRTSAZM/ref=s9_acsd_top_hd_bw_b2f0dgp_c_x_w?pf_rd_m=A1IM4EOPHS76S7&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-11&pf_rd_r=27KRWTNWKT1FVACFC6DZ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=8487c6e6-e9b4-5f26-a8ff-4f15ff906036&pf_rd_i=2438248011

J hooks : https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00873J0YY/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Crossbars
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077XD19K2/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Sub 150.00 I have this setup on my 535i

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003V57NUQ/

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GA2HKAU/

I just used some universal ones from amazon, I will probably end up getting the Thule kayak mount though in the near future. Im not happy with the fitment of current mounts, they get the job done though.

https://www.amazon.com/Lifetime-Warranty-Pairs-Carrier-Crossbar/dp/B00873J0YY/ref=asc_df_B00873J0YY/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312140625015&hvpos=1o5&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9997469344271785624&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9015351&hvtargid=aud-801738734305:pla-558703328368&psc=1

This is what I'm looking at. Sorry for long link, I'm on mobile

Curt Manufacturing 11402 Class 1 Trailer Hitch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MNR27KO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_PZb7BbKR0FNGV

Swagman XC Cross-Country 2-Bike Hitch Mount Rack (1/1/4 and 2-Inch Receiver) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0001VO1YY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_J1b7BbGCEYVVC

Going on five years now with no problems. Granted my kayak (Swifty 9.5 by Perception) is made out of hard plastic, I load my yak with the underside up and also I cinch it down till there's no movement. I'd reconsider if I had a fiberglass kayak. You can also get these I believe they can be attached to the bars I mentioned above. Would be great if you have two yaks to move.

I went this route, installed a hitch on my Subaru WRX and got this hitch: http://www.amazon.com/Swagman-Cross-Country-2-Bike-2-Inch-Receiver/dp/B001DMJPLO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1373468630&sr=8-2&keywords=swagman+xc+bike+rack

I can't say enough good things about this setup and hitch.

Oh sorry I mighta been confused about your question. So a simple bike rack is what I was referencing re: $30. Some fit 2 bikes, some 3. Buy one shaped for your general ride (e.g. Sedan vs. SUV). In addition to that, I am modifying a bike trailer to pull around friends/ladies/ice. Like this one! Gonna put some pillows or parts of an office chair on it. We'll see...

Nothing super snazzy, just Rhino Rack and then the kayak rack to carry the kayaks around

just foam blocks. https://www.amazon.com/Attwood-11438-7-Kayak-Car-Top-Carrier/dp/B003EET2OE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1526495477&sr=8-3&keywords=foam+kayak+blocks

I might go check one out. The only one that looks semi-reliable at my LBS is this: Allen 102D Trunk Deluxe 2 Bike Car Rack

Amazon reports mixed reviews, including some that are quite scary.
http://www.amazon.com/Allen-Deluxe-2-Bike-Trunk-Mount/product-reviews/B000ELUXFC?pageNumber=2

Have a look at this: Allen Sports Deluxe 2-Bike Trunk Mount Rack https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00TRTSAZM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apip_xskjLrAIspZqU


I drive a VW sedan and I've no issues with it.
I've been using it every weekend for the last three months. Does the job well and I didn't have to break the bank for it.

I would recommend cork or rubber bushing on the inside of metal brackets to avoid paint damage though.

https://www.amazon.com/Swagman-Cross-Country-2-Bike-2-Inch-Receiver/dp/B0001VO1YY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1543187400&sr=8-3&keywords=swagman+bike+rack

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This will do the trick if you are looking to get something cheap yet functional. I have driven about 1,500 miles with 2 bikes on it and have had no issues! The only upgrade I had to get was a hitch tighter because the rack bounced around a little bit.